Cool breath, quiet mind.

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Cool breath, quiet mind.

Postby fijiNut » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:54 pm

Hi everybody,
Just wanted clarification and advice from well practiced friends here on the forum.

I haven't been regular with my sitting meditation, but try to watch the breath while doing other activities.

As of late, there are times where the perception of the breath becomes 'cool' while doing other activities,
i.e the sensations of the incoming/outgoing breath is like that when you drink cool water on warm day.

I just find it mildly amusing when it happens , becomes the mind is naturally drawn to the pleasant feeling, and comments "oh how nice/delicious!".

How to incorporate more clarity, awareness, and mindfulness? I do not having any afinity to the 'noting' method much, but I'm open to new ideas.

I don't want to end up being a samadhi-wallah or vegetable sitting and watching the breath all day (which happens sometimes at awkward moments, eg eating dinner/socialising with friends and the conversation becomes quiet!). But then again, collecting all the samadhi one can get throughout the day really 'powers up' the stability of mind when one days sit for formal meditation.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

kind regards,
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Re: Cool breath, quiet mind.

Postby 5heaps » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:14 pm

my thought is that if one's meditation ever has a trace of dullness or a spaced-out quality to it,then its not real meditation.
real meditation is hyper lucidity and awareness. its like an ai which can do 10,000 difficult things at once.
the cool sensation inducing pleasant sensation is common. dont you think that its from settling into the present moment slightly?

How to incorporate more clarity, awareness, and mindfulness?

once meditation gets decent the enemy becomes subtle dullness, into which a meditator can space out for long periods of time. during this time the meditation object is not lost, but it has no brightness or lucidity to it. its tricky because your mind is on alert for losing the object but since the object is no longer easily lost the watchfulness just sits there and gets fatigued, thus the brightness of the object fades without notice. so, one of the necessary skills for achieving shamata is countering this subtle dullness (gross dullness being the losing or forgetting of the object completely) by recognizing it and watching for it as well.
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Re: Cool breath, quiet mind.

Postby Reductor » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:48 pm

There aren't any real shortcuts, I don't think.

My first suggestion is to sit regularly, even if it is only for five minutes a day. It'll have an effect on your mind for certain.

I've found that by not watching TV or listening to music my mindfulness is much, much better in the day without much additional effort on my part.
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Re: Cool breath, quiet mind.

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:38 pm

Yes do set up a daily practice. IT's really not possible to do without it.

Also your breath maybe trying to show you the tejo/fire element (apparently) if it suddenly turns cool. You might want to explore the U Pandita tradition which uses this.

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