The stage of a Gotrabu

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The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby villkorkarma » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:10 pm

Hello
Goenka says in the video - stages of enlightenment - www.youtube.com
that when one experiencing the first stage of enlightenment - after he have reached nibbanic stage
that he is now a change person, he cant generate any new sankharas that will take him to lower fields of life...
What is he meaning? And how does one knows that? Did Siddharta Goutami reached the stage of an Arahant in his lifetime we heard about?
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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby villkorkarma » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:28 pm

i find a little text here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Buddha/message/66
Having thus dispelled the thick murk that hides the truth, he clearly saw as one did the moon clearly in the cloudless sky; and realized the Great Light of Nibbana through the Knowledge of the First Path Sotapatti magga Nana which immediately follows Gotrabu Nana the Knowledge of overcoming of worldly ties and changing over to noble lineage. (The thought moment of Sotapatti magga Nana appeared once and ceased; this is immediately followed by the appearance and cessation three times of Javana, impulsion of Sotapatti phala which is the effect of the said Sotapatti magga, in accordance with the attribute of the Dhamma known as Akalika (Immediate Fruition). Then follows the flow of bhavanga citta).

Because the Sotapatti-magga, had been attained thus, the mind continuum of the Bodhisatta was completely rid of the three defilements, namely sakkaya ditthi* Vicikiccha** and Silabbataparamasa***. These defilements would never rise again in the Bodhisatta's mind continuum.

* Sakkaya ditthi: belief in the illusion that there is Self, Soul;

** Vicikiccha- doubt or wavering of mind about 1. the Buddha; 2. the Dhamma; 3. the Sangha; 4. the disciplinary rules (sikkha); 5. the past; 6. the future; 7. both past and future; 8. Dependent Origination (Paticcasamuppada.)

*** Silabbataparamasa--Adherence to wrongful rites and ceremonies; the misleading belief that there are paths other than the Ariya Path of Eight Constituents that can liberate one from dukkha.
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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby villkorkarma » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:33 pm

one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:36 pm

Hi Villorkorkarma,

Do you accept the Pali tipitaka as telling the truth or only the words of your teacher, Goenkaji? In any case Goenkaji is correct and is in line with the suttas - you might have to get hold of some of his talks on dhamma. :anjali:

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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby villkorkarma » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:05 pm

now i dont find the video,
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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:05 am

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: The stage of a Gotrabu

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:44 pm

Aha.. Now I understand I thought it first was seven lives and then 2 more then 1and so on.
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