befriend wrote:as i slowly find more and more happiness in renunciation and loosely following the 8 precepts, i am beginning to think contraception may be unwholsome.
I don't follow your train of thought here...at all... and apart from the title, you mention this just here, without elaboration.
what has renunciation got to do with contraception?
And why are you 'loosely following the 8 precepts'...?
Why not follow five, tightly?
What has one got to do with the other?
as i think sex for recreation is as buddha said a low act performed by common people. didnt he say that.
Actually, I don't know.... did he? Could you please find reference and give us a link?
modern medicine views sex as being healthy, and a great release of stress.
If it is as you say, then perhaps renunciation isn't such a sound idea, for a lay person....
this is because no one practices voluntary celibacy in our society.
I think you'll find it's a lot more than you think.
the health benefits of voluntary celibacy are vast. your intelligence your well being your energy, your health. yogis for thousands of years have thought celibacy to be a main staple of there spiritual and physical well being.
again, as you seem to be making sweeping statements, some kind of professional, official proof would be interesting....
so ive also noticed the less i look at girls cleavage or whatever the less lust arises. where does lust come from? focusing on beauty. ive stopped looking at womens bodies even when i watch tv i look away, its like i stopped feuling the fire.
even this is a form of attachment... your aversion is controlling you.
shouldn't the case be that leooking or not looking, makes no difference either way....?
so i come back to my initial point. why do you think there are so many STD's?
this was not your initial point.
where did this come from?!?
is this not the universe telling us something about recreational sex?
um.....no.... this is a very theistic statement to make... some kind of retribution for doing what comes naturally....?
Are you serious?
wouldnt the world be a better place, if we all had sex only for procreation.
How very Catholic.... what makes you think having children is a divine right?
this would stop aids pretty much.
Again with the weird random connection.....
So we should quit giving blood transfusions also, on that premise....Jeesh but this is a weird post...it's all over the place!
i dont know its incredibly good karma to refrain from sexual activity, the same cant be said for having sex.
What's the difference?
Or are we talking 'masturbation' here?
You'll go blind.....
thoughts? metta, befriend.
You need to get out more.... Too much time on your hands....