Precepts in different groups

[Cittasanto]

Hi All,
I have of late become more interested in the precepts different groups use, I understand that tiratana uses 10 precepts for their 'ordained' members and the mittas use the five, or 8 and the Buddhist Group of Kendal have a couple of different precept goupings.
I am wondering if there are any other groups who use precepts not exactly found in the canon, although derived from there?

[chownah]

There is a Buddhist group called the Noble Ones and they all follow four precepts which are unfaulted by knowledgeable contemplatives and priests. What are these four precepts?
Any clothing at all will do.
Any food at all will do.
Any abode at all will do.
Finding pleasure and delight in developing (skillful mental qualities) and finding pleasure and delight in abandoning (unskillful mental qualities).

Find out more about it here:
AN 4.28 PTS: A ii 27
Ariya-vamsa Sutta: The Discourse on the Traditions of the Noble Ones
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

chownah

[Cittasanto]

There is a Buddhist group called the Noble Ones and they all follow four precepts which are unfaulted by knowledgeable contemplatives and priests. What are these four precepts?
Any clothing at all will do.
Any food at all will do.
Any abode at all will do.
Finding pleasure and delight in developing (skillful mental qualities) and finding pleasure and delight in abandoning (unskillful mental qualities).

Find out more about it here:
AN 4.28 PTS: A ii 27
Ariya-vamsa Sutta: The Discourse on the Traditions of the Noble Ones
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

chownah

lol forgot about those guys

[daverupa]

Do bodhisattva vows count?

[Cittasanto]

Do bodhisattva vows count?

Theravada for the Modern world sub-forum so no.
yes the Tiratana/FWBO/WBO aren't strictly theravada but claim to be non-denominational so I feel their precepts would count in this threat/forum, but something purely mahayana would be out of place.

[Cittasanto]

from the canon with an interesting passage underlined about the Brahmacari precept.

"Now I will tell you the layman's duty. Following it a lay-disciple would be virtuous; for it is not possible for one occupied with the household life to realize the complete bhikkhu practice (dhamma).

"He should not kill a living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should he incite another to kill. Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in the world.

"A disciple should avoid taking anything from anywhere knowing it (to belong to another). He should not steal nor incite another to steal. He should completely avoid theft.

"A wise man should avoid unchastity as (he would avoid falling into) a pit of glowing charcoal. If unable to lead a celibate life, he should not go to another's wife.

"Having entered a royal court or a company of people he should not speak lies. He should not speak lies (himself) nor incite others to do so. He should completely avoid falsehood.

"A layman who has chosen to practice this Dhamma should not indulge in the drinking of intoxicants. He should not drink them nor encourage others to do so; realizing that it leads to madness. Through intoxication foolish people perform evil deeds and cause other heedless people to do likewise. He should avoid intoxication, this occasion for demerit, which stupefies the mind, and is the pleasure of foolish people.
Do not kill a living being; do not take what is not given; do not speak a lie; do not drink intoxicants; abstain from sexual intercourse; do not eat food at night, at the wrong time; do not wear flower-garlands nor use perfumes; use the ground as a bed or sleep on a mat.

"This is called the eight-factored observance made known by the Awakened One who has reached the end of suffering.

"With a gladdened mind observe the observance day (uposatha), complete with its eight factors, on the fourteenth, fifteenth and eighth days of the (lunar) fortnight and also the special holiday of the half month. In the morning, with a pure heart and a joyful mind, a wise man, after observing the uposatha, should distribute suitable food and drink to the community of bhikkhus. He should support his mother and father as his duty and engage in lawful trading. A layman who carries this out diligently goes to the devas called "Self-radiant."