should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:22 am

jason c wrote:
SDC wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:Other than going over the same ground repeatedly, do we have anything new to say here?


Practicing Buddhists shouldn't talk about guns. :D


very, wise my friend. :namaste:
(Whispering: He was being sarcastic)
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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby rowboat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:24 am

Well, I would not assume that about me, but ten since I know what I do, I don't have to worry about it. It is not an issue.


I don't understand how one can be 100% certain they are not killing even insects once the bullet leaves the gun, if one is shooting outdoors. (Of course the same applies to archery and other forms of target shooting, by the way.)
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That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby rowboat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:27 am

Sure, and it is a way of keeping the population controlled.


It is a way of making a portion of the population dead.
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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:30 am

rowboat wrote:
Well, I would not assume that about me, but ten since I know what I do, I don't have to worry about it. It is not an issue.


I don't understand how one can be 100% certain they are not killing even insects once the bullet leaves the gun, if one is shooting outdoors. (Of course the same applies to archery and other forms of target shooting, by the way.)
It also includes walking on the grass, driving a car, riding in a bus, plane, train, subway. And then there is our food supply which is dependent up controlling insect "pests" and not to mention controlling weeds, which has an impact on insects and other animals.

But other than the unlikelihood of accidentally hitting bug in the air, I feel confident enough about what I do so as to not run afoul of your judgment-ism.
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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:31 am

rowboat wrote:
Sure, and it is a way of keeping the population controlled.


It is a way of making a portion of the population dead.
Can't get much more controlled than that.
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Re: should a practicing buddhist own a gun?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:39 am

Mod note: Since this thread is going around in ever increasingly personal circles, grinding the dirt beneath our feet to dust, adding nothing new or of value, it is time to lock it. The rest of the management team can take a look, and if they feel there is any further value in pursuing this thread, they can re-open. Feel free to drop us a PM.
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