jason c wrote:hi marc108,
in a life or death situation, you will simply take action, no thinking will be necessary. if however you have the time to go to your safe, unlock it, load your gun, you will have made a conscious choice to hurt or harm someone. why invite that into ones life?
i dont believe that is true, in the context of the type of people you find here. i would like to think all of this Bhavana we do would not go out the window in a violent situation and we would have the ability to choose to put a bullet in someones arm rather than their head.
again, there are no rules, per say, against harming. the 1st precept is about killing. to bring true ahimsa to its final fruition we would all need to starve ourselves to death like the Jains. If you had the chance to use nonlethal violence against an attacker, instead of let him hurt you or your loved ones, this would be the right thing to do. to stand down in passivity and allow the evil people in this world to just do as they please to you, your loved ones, or people in general is, imo, wrong view and a defiled form of ahimsa. this passive, and extreme form of ahimsa is generally something you find to be only supported by lay people, and not something you find taught by the Buddha or by any of the great Buddhist Masters... in fact, in my experience, defending yourself and your loved ones within the context of the precepts is what you find to be echoed by the Great Masters.