Is whistling a form of singing ?

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Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby Alobha » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:33 am

nacca-gita-vadita-visuka-dassana mala-gandha-vilepana-dharana-mandana-vibhusanatthana veramani sikkha- padam samadiyami.
I request the training rule to refrain from dancing, singing, music and going to see entertainments, which are stumbling blocks to wholesomeness; and to refrain from wearing garlands, using perfumes and beautifying the body with cosmetics.


Is whistling a form of singing ?
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby Sam Vara » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:02 am

No, but it is music.

Depending on your level of skill, of course...
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby James the Giant » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:24 am

Unless it's whistling to command a sheep dog. Then it's talking. Ha!
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:37 am

What about wolf-whistling? Does that transgress the third precept for those observing the eight precepts?
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby theY » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:41 am

Whistle as song ?

Normal speaking can be a song, in some case. Yes, whistle, too.
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby polarbuddha101 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:27 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:What about wolf-whistling? Does that transgress the third precept for those observing the eight precepts?


What is wolf-whistling? I assume you aren't talking about howling.

Edit: Never mind. I looked it up. Never knew that had a specific term to describe it. You learn something new everyday.
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:42 pm

Alobha wrote:Is whistling a form of singing ?


If in doubt ask yourself do you really need to do it.
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Re: Is whistling a form of singing ?

Postby Digity » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:12 am

Think of the heart of the precept. Music is often a distraction and a desire to indulge the mind in pleasure. I think whistling is the same...it's done to entertain the mind and can be distracting.
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