When Buddhists get a tick....

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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby Moth » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:33 pm

I think we're over-analyzing this. You're not 100% guaranteed to get a disease, and if you do its not as if they're not treatable. Either way, if you kill the tick you kill the tick, do not look for justification. You value your own life over its life, either that or you value human life in general over that of a tick. I'm not implying any judgment value here, just trying to state things as they are. If you leave the tick then you accept the risk towards yourself for the sake of its life.

Also, I think the argument that letting it live would harm another being is invalid. There are infinitely many ticks, you sparing one's life isn't going to make a difference. Just because a tick exists near you doesn't mean you are duty bound to kill it, for the sake of other beings, for if that were the case we'd need to be preemptively killing many, many, ticks as they are all over the place.
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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby Goedert » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:42 pm

According to Theravada commentaries, there are five requisite factors that must all be fulfilled for an act to be both an act of killing and to be karmically negative. These are: (1) the presence of a living being, human or animal; (2) the knowledge that the being is a living being; (3) the intent to kill; (4) the act of killing by some means; and (5) the resulting death.

Hammalawa Saddhatissa, Buddhist Ethics. Wisdom Publications, 1997, pages 60, 159.

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Postby PeterB » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:51 pm

I will accept that Goedert. And I will consciously and deliberately kill ticks, mosquitoes and anything else that threatens the life of my family and community. And accept the consequences. You make your decision and I will make mine.

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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby acinteyyo » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:10 pm

Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:05 pm

Here is a cute little eye worm taken live from some unfortunate person's eye. This worm will die outside the host. So, which one of you want to become the new host for our little friend?

http://www.lifesyrup.com/watch_video.ph ... 7cc36170e1

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Holy shit
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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby Virgo » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:37 pm

I'm leaving this conversation because some peoples views are twisted. The Buddha taught not to kill. Eye worms may affect peoples eyes; however, killing is the cause of negative kamma. Because you kill, in future lifetimes you will be crushed, killed, injured, hunted, and so on. So your "compassionate fight" only leads to some negative kamma erupting in the future, where you are afflicted again.

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Postby Reductor » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:01 pm

You know what I would swat, if I had the chance? This thread.

May it die, and soon.

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Re: When Buddhists get a tick....

Postby Hoo » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:05 pm

I think it was Ajhan Chah I was reading when the point was made that one should be aware when passion rises. The arising of passion is rarely skilful and can be considered a warning that attachment is active or that ego is threatened.

My apologies for asking that this thread be left open. I did learn some more tick-related and precept-related things to consider. For that I thank everyone. But I regret the position-taking, position-defending and other words that seem to have been designed to demean others. I almost joined in to straighten some folks out - which would have helped a lot, right? :toilet:

To those always alert to credentials (and rightly so, IMHO), here they are. Recent Buddhist, long time faded-glory in several fields, easily tempted into an argument, so far away from stream-entry that I'll die of thirst before I see the stream ;)

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