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Thought suppression by Samatha

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:21 pm

I have this problem that when I do Samatha meditation my thoughts or memories tend to get suppressed temporarily. It can become a problem at work, yet I want to do my Samatha as I feel it is important. Any ideas? :thinking:

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:36 am

What exactly do you mean by suppressed?
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:46 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby daverupa » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:21 am

In my experience, samatha results in more intentional thought-formation; thoughts aren't suppressed in a general way, they simply don't arise as randomly. It's like bullet-time in the mind, not vacuous like an infant's mind.

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:20 am

Greetings Matheesha,

In your situation I would restrict the amount of time on samatha and spend more time on vipassana. I am not convinced that maintaining intense samatha is ideal outside of the seclusion of retreat.
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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:15 am

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:42 pm

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:52 pm

I think you maybe putting to much effort into the practice for this to happen. realistically you want to be able to function on the task at hand (which requires sati no matter what the task is).

without knowing exactly what you are doing I would suggest trying to be more fluid with your practice rather than using a hammer to drive in a screw. which is what I think maybe the case?
don't stop completely but don't aim so narrowly.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:02 pm

Actualy, this state of mind, when he dont captures nothink, when all that heppens lides down like a drop of rain on the lotus leaf, is very... is very free :roll:
When it's like this, the problem is not the mind, but a job that dont let you be released, be free , feel true happyness of calm.

Go forth is the solution. :roll:
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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby daverupa » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:15 pm

I think maybe the practice can use a tweak, since the sort of calm which builds up in such a way that the mind becomes unwieldy isn't really part of samadhi.
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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:28 pm

He not becomes unweldy, just dhammas cant penetrate it, like a arrow that cant penetrate a castle, like a reflect cant penetrate a mirrow.

It arise, it pass away...
Sometimes, some toughts disapears in the very middle, just like th.....

It disapears like a darknes, when you enlight it with you mind :shock: In all suttas Mara goes away, he disapears, in the very moment when he understand that bhikkhu see him... :twisted: :arrow: :shock: :arrow: :evil: :arrow: :meditate:
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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:57 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:15 pm

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

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Re: Thought suppression by Samatha

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:58 pm

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