why drowsiness give pleasure?

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why drowsiness give pleasure?

Postby barcsimalsi » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:43 am

I find it easier to meditate when my mind is slightly to moderately drowsy. There is a pleasant sensation accompanying almost every breath but when the energy is back, the drowsiness is gone so as the pleaseful feeling. Then my mind became active and restless as usual.

As i had practiced meditation and studying the dhamma for quite some time, i manage to not cling to the pleasant feeling that arise( in meditation), hence aversion is not the problem.

From the suttas, it explained that the pleasant feeling of meditation is suppose to bring the mind to relaxation, tranquility and eventually leads to equanimity. I had experienced the former 2 but no where is equanimity whereas the tranquility of mind seems to depend on the pleasant sensation which will cease anytime. Furthermore, i'm not sure the pleasant sensation i'm experiencing is the same from what the sutta describes.

I failed to see if there's anyway on prolonging the pleasant sensation that arise from being drowsy yet i can't meditate well when my mind is energetic. Is there something wrong with me? Need advice.

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Re: why drowsiness give pleasure?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:40 am

Getting attached to the pleasant feeling experienced when the mind is concentrated is clearly a potential problem. How do you react if someone or something rouses you from your tranquillity, e.g. by banging a door, etc.?

Drowsiness is a hindrance. If the mind becomes dull, get up and do some walking meditation. It is recommended to alternate walking with sitting to balance the energies. Excessive energy will lead to restlessness, while excessive concentration will lead to drowsiness.

Like drowsiness, restlessness is just another one of the five hindrances. It should be observed and contemplated as “Restless, restless,” until it disappears. Drowsiness is somewhat difficult to note clearly and precisely, because the mind is dull.

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: why drowsiness give pleasure?

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Re: why drowsiness give pleasure?

Postby makarasilapin » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:12 pm

i would contact a meditation teacher rather than ask people on an internet forum

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Re: why drowsiness give pleasure?

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Re: why drowsiness give pleasure?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:23 pm

• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)


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