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What's the difference between Samadhi and Jhana?

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Postby Freawaru » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 am

I understand aware and unaware intention this way:

Think of walking meditation. When we walk in a non-aware way (asampajanna) we are not aware of the patterns in the mind that actually control our walking. But when sampajanna is present during walking (for example during walking meditation) we can discern how the next step is initiated, the feeling of movement arises, how what we see with the eys is considered in our mind and based on it choosing the next step (say, there is a puddle or a stone, then our mind will intend a different movement than otherwise). Without sampajanna these processes are without awareness, even the intention is without awareness, but with sampajanna there is awareness of intention how and where to place our feet, how to bend the body and so on.

So there is unaware intention and aware intention based on wether sampajanna is present or not. The intention is the same but the difference is the presence of awareness.

There is also the possibility of intentions based on sampajanna, but that only happens when sampajanna is strong and deep. With this it is possible to directly influence the mind-patterns themselves. For example, with this kind of intention one is enabled to change deep rooted habits such as smoking. Intention on this level would enable someone not only to stop smoking from one second to the next but even to not feel any desire for it anymore. It is like going down to the "machine code of the mind" and alter the "progamm" on this level.

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Postby tanhendrick » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:35 am

Samadhi in Buddhist terms means collected/concentrated mind which can be cultivated by Samatha meditation on any of the 40 meditation objects. Samadhi is basically a mind bhavana aiming at purification of the mind from five hindrances. The concentrated mind free of hindrances is imperturbable, pliant, buoyant, radiance and powerful capable of seeing/penetrating the reality (the arising-passing and ultimate characteristics of mind-matter or nama-rupa) as they really are. Concentrating on a stable object such as breaths/whole body of breaths or kasinas can result in a full meditative absorption (appana samadhi) leading to Jhana attainment which can, by its distinct set of jhana factors, be a successive 4 or 5 material (rupa) jhanas and 4 immaterial (arupa) jhanas or attainments. In many suttas, The Buddha referred 4 rupa jhanas to as right samadhi, which is one of the 8 factors of the noble eightfold path. If the meditation object is not stable or has changing properties like those of 4-element meditation or recollection of the Buddha qualities, the access samadhi (upacara samdhi) which has similar, though less, quality to Jhanic absorption may instead be attained. All of these Jhana or upacara samadhi attainments have one-pointedness of mind as its factor.

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