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Existential Crisis

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Existential Crisis

Postby Tehuti » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:12 pm

I've been doing a lot of introspection recently, and I believe that recent events in my life have precipitated what is commonly called an 'Existential Crisis'.

What I mean by this is that I have become acutely aware of my own mortality, question the meaning and purpose of my very existence, and experience what I can only describe as a 'lonely panic', as though I were insignificant, adrift in a vast and indifferent universe.

I am beginning to feel that perhaps I have been doing my meditation wrong - my awareness seems to be jumbled and out of control, and my dreams vivid and disturbing.

Could someone please advise me on how to get past this?

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:27 pm

Hi Tehuti,

It's not uncommon for things to get rough if practice is effective. After all, Buddhist practice is designed to undermine the ego, and the ego can object to that...

Do you have a teacher or a practice group? Such things are much easier to talk through in person.

However, if not, perhaps you could explain a little about your practice and someone might have some comments or suggestions that might make sense in that context.

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Re: Existential Crisis

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby m0rl0ck » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:13 pm

In my experience, the only way to cope with this kind of thing is to surrender and let go and continue to practice. If you stop practice i think you can get stuck in this kind of thing. Die to yourself, surrender, the only way out is the way in.
All along the path of my practice i have experienced this to some degree or other and the only way i have found to get through it is to surrender and come out the other side. It would be best if you could talk face to face with a teacher about this.
If its any consolation my experience with these kinds of bumps in the road is that you eventually learn to approach them more skillfully and with more equanimity.
“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig


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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby marc108 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:21 pm

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby Goofaholix » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:34 am

It's always been like this, just your perception of it has changed.

"I am in the middle of an 'Existential Crisis'" is a story, a story with I with a capital I in the middle of it.

If you are practising mindfulness correctly you won't be paying much attention to the story rather you'll be interested in the myriad of thoughts, feelings, and body sensations that are arising and passing away, whether or not they appear to be related to the story.

So place your foundation on that which can be directly experienced and the knowing of it. Not on a conceptual interpretation (story) which may or may not be an accurate description of what's really going on and can easily snowball.

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby befriend » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:46 am

nothing can destroy a man who has lived a pure life

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby DAWN » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:26 am

Existential crisis of what make you suffer?

Crisis of form?
Crisis of feeling?
Crisis of perception?
Crisis of volitional formations?
Crisis of consciosness?
Sabbe dhamma anatta
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Re: Existential Crisis

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby pegembara » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:08 am

My advise is to make friends with your breath. Just sit and observe your breath going in and out until you achieve some degree of stillness. Thoughts are not your friends here.

Keep going to your breathing. When you are fully settled, you will realise that things are really OK. It is only wrong thoughts that make them not so.
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Existential Crisis

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby DAWN » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:16 pm

Just to complete Kim's (wondefull) post about a meaning of life, in french russian and others langueges, meaning of life use the word "sens of life", and like Kim said it, life have no sens.
Why?
Because the word "sens" can be used only for somethink that have some utility, some aim, but the utility and aim of life - is just to be alive, just be born, and die, this aim will be done naturaly.
So by being alive, and do it fully, with fully consciosness, is actualy the best way of life. Why? Because you are alive every moment, right lifehood.


What is the sens of life the Sun ? Just to be.
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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:31 pm

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Existential Crisis

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:25 pm

Here's our dilemma: That we've been damned by giants sound asleep, or by great scientific principles and abstractions that cannot realize themselves: that little harlots have visited their caprices upon us; that clowns, with buckets of water from which they pretend to cast thousands of good-sized fishes have anathematized us for laughing disrespectfully, because, as with all clowns, underlying buffoonery is the desire to be taken seriously; that pale ignorances, presiding over microscopes by which they cannot distinguish flesh from nostoc or fishes' spawn, have visited upon us their wan solemnities. We've been damned by corpses and skeletons and mummies, which twitch and totter with pseudo-life derived from conveniences.

It is our expression that the flux between that which isn't and that which won't be, or the state that is commonly and absurdly called "existence," is a rhythm of heavens and hells: that the damned won't stay damed; that salvation only precedes perdition.

A procession of the damned.
By the damned, I mean the excluded.
We shall have a procession of data that Science has excluded.

Amen.

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