Discussion of Satipatthana bhavanā and Vipassana bhavana.
by purple planet » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:28 pm
Is there a point to non continues awareness - or is it just a waste of time ? (if i do it one day yes one not being mindful at all OR if i do every day but im not mindful most of the day just in the evning and morning i stay mindful)
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by Cittasanto » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:15 pm
Are you asking is there a point to not being mindful all day?
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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by purple planet » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:52 pm
Have i just been zenfide ?
That is a great answer

- i wanted to reply "cause its hard" but i guess that if the noting is done correctly then its not meant to be hard if we dont attach
i will still like to hear what other reason people have - just for the intrest also when i will have a hard time and think i wasted all my time and also for future people who run throw this thread
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by Cittasanto » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:54 pm
purple planet wrote:Have i just been zenfide ?
That is a great answer

- i wanted to reply "cause its hard" but i guess that if the noting is done correctly then its not meant to be hard if we dont attach
i will still like to hear what other reason people have - just for the intrest also when i will have a hard time and think i wasted all my time and also for future people who run throw this thread
No, I was looking for clarification, your question isn't 100% clear in the OP.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
With Metta
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Blog - Some Suttas Translated.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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by daverupa » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:20 pm
I read "Is there a point to non-continuous awareness?" which I take to be asking whether non-ideal practice has any benefit. In other words, it seems to be asking if piecemeal effort is beneficial or a waste of time.
But maybe something else was meant, such as whether there was more benefit in one day a week vs. one or two hours a day...

"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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by purple planet » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:24 am
I read "Is there a point to non-continuous awareness?" which I take to be asking whether non-ideal practice has any benefit. In other words, it seems to be asking if piecemeal effort is beneficial or a waste of time.
yes that is my question exactly -
No, I was looking for clarification, your question isn't 100% clear in the OP.
still a great answer lol - ( i usually dont like this answers that i get that answer my question with a question for a question except this case)
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by Cittasanto » Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:16 am
purple planet wrote:I read "Is there a point to non-continuous awareness?" which I take to be asking whether non-ideal practice has any benefit. In other words, it seems to be asking if piecemeal effort is beneficial or a waste of time.
yes that is my question exactly - tha
No, I was looking for clarification, your question isn't 100% clear in the OP.
still a great answer lol - ( i usually dont like this answers that i get that answer my question with a question for a question except this case)
As I have already said that wasn't an answer, it was actually a question.
as your question is about ideal situation...
when you clean your home it is not an ideal level of cleanliness at the start, and it deeds doing one bit at a time, to get to the ideal.
Practice turnes every situation into the ideal situation by taking one step at a time. cleaning as you go, untill we no longer have to clean up anymore.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
With Metta
Upāsaka Cittasanto
Blog - Some Suttas Translated.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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by purple planet » Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:36 am
Are you asking is there a point to not being mindful all day?
ok ok i will answer lol -
yes that is what i am asking - is there a point in noticing only part of the day -
as your question is about ideal situation...
when you clean your home it is not an ideal level of cleanliness at the start, and it deeds doing one bit at a time, to get to the ideal.
Practice turnes every situation into the ideal situation by taking one step at a time. cleaning as you go, untill we no longer have to clean up anymore.
there is a lot of emphasis in stuff i read on constant awareness - that this helps raise insight
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by Cittasanto » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:37 am
purple planet wrote:Are you asking is there a point to not being mindful all day?
ok ok i will answer lol -
yes that is what i am asking - is there a point in noticing only part of the day -
as your question is about ideal situation...
when you clean your home it is not an ideal level of cleanliness at the start, and it deeds doing one bit at a time, to get to the ideal.
Practice turnes every situation into the ideal situation by taking one step at a time. cleaning as you go, untill we no longer have to clean up anymore.
there is a lot of emphasis in stuff i read on constant awareness - that this helps raise insight
Yes, it is helpful, noticing the three characteristics is easier when you are focused on what you are doing (see clear comprehension section of the satipatthana sutta). you are in essence bringing practice into everyday life.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
With Metta
Upāsaka Cittasanto
Blog - Some Suttas Translated.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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by Bakmoon » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:15 pm
purple planet wrote:Is there a point to non continues awareness - or is it just a waste of time ? (if i do it one day yes one not being mindful at all OR if i do every day but im not mindful most of the day just in the evning and morning i stay mindful)
There is a benefit to it because a good amount of mindfulness is better than having only a little bit.
The non-doing of any evil,
The performance of what's skillful,
The cleansing of one's own mind:
This is the Buddhas' teaching.
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