Insight without continues mindfulness ?

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Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby purple planet » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:35 pm

Ive already asked this before - i read somewhere that mahasi sayadaw said mindfulness is like a tea pot - you need to continuously heat (be mindful) the water in order for them to boil (have insight)

So are one second mindfulness usless ? what about 5 minutes a day ? what about 5 minutes a week ? - im not taking about maybe it might help be more relaxed that day or a little more mindful but if its going to advance me to an insight - if i do 5 minutes in a week ? cause this way the water cant boil

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I asked a monk on the web dont remember the name but he was insight practicing monk and he said you can do one second a day mindfulness and as long as you dont kill or steal you can get an insight at some point maybe 5 years later - he said that as long as i dont kill or steal or sell drugs and stuff along this lines my pratice can only advance and not go backwards


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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby daverupa » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:57 pm

Uninterrupted satipatthana is possible and something to work towards. Mindfulness in day-to-day living is a very productive faculty to develop; you will notice that it directly affects ones ability to guard the senses while at the same time acting as the foundation for a dedicated sitting practice.

The precepts are, in effect, methods of doing ethical satipatthana when in relation with other beings. In connection with this, note that two of the three aspects of right intention directly involve relating to beings.

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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:02 am

Whilst we should not disparage any attempt to cultivate mindfulness, 1 second is clearly not enough to develop any significant insight.

is essential to develop the controlling faculties.

Mindfulness should be practised throughout the whole day without a break. Even if one cannot practise formal meditation for the whole day very often, one should practise mindfulness of all daily activities, thoughts, and feelings without fail.

Even a lay person with a young family to care for should be able to get away for a weekend retreat now and then.
• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby purple planet » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:20 am

I understand we should aspire to practice as much as we can - but does that mean for instance if i wash the dishes mindfuly and thats all i do in a day d- and i dont do any sitting or walking meditation at all for a few years - does that make the washing the dishes mindfuly usless?
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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby reflection » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:53 pm

The path is a continuous journey. The more right effort you put into it, the faster the journey will go. So you might want to take one step a day, but it's better to keep walking. It's not like you have one insight and it's all done. Perhaps it's even better to say the real work starts after real insight.

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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby purple planet » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:06 pm

Ok so i have right view - and i meditate - how much is enough to advance ?

5 minutes a day is to little isnt it ? (without planing to increase it 5 minutes a day for 10 years)

and also if each day i meditate at the morning and wash the dishes mindfuly in the eavning that part of being mindful is not helpful because its not continues with anything because last time i meditated was 10 hours ago ?
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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby purple planet » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:37 pm

Very confusing subject - its a shame its not clearer - im not sure what view to follow -

everything counts - or continuity is the way to gain insight
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Re: Insight without continues mindfulness ?

Postby purple planet » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:01 pm

ok i asked a monk and he answered : its like learning a language if you learn a few basic words and then forget about it - and after a 10 years get back to learning it - it will be a little easier - so its not useless - but if you want to speak taht language good you need to practice it continuously cause if you learn one word a week it will take you a long time to understand

so 1 minute of mindfulness is good and helpful but only a tiny bit - and its much better to have continuity and practice more but its not usless to have a minute of mindfulness here and there
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