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Bare attention - Dhamma Wheel

Bare attention

On the cultivation of insight/wisdom
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Bare attention

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:26 am

This is a thread for the discussion of what is bare attention and the role it plays in practice.

The following, written by Ven Bodhi, is found here:

http://shamatha.org/sites/default/files ... ndence.pdf

See viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4623#p70671 for a discussion of this pdf.

If one wants to criticize the idea of bare attention, that is fine, but not in this thread. Please start a new thread.

We can use this discussion by Ven Bodhi as an initial basis for looking at what "bare attention" is. Other quotes are certainly welcome.


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Re: Bare attention

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:42 am

Mikenz88 found this link to the second chapter of Ven Nyanaponika's HEART OF BUDDHIST MEDITATION that discusses bare attention at length:

http://www.alexox.com/sangha/bareattention.pdf

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Re: Bare attention

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:59 am

Bare attention without object, or moving from object to a simple attention to of all that arises is also taught by some Theravadin teachers.

:anjali:

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Re: Bare attention

Postby Sylvester » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:10 am


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Re: Bare attention

Postby alan » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:12 am

I like the new word. Instead of the unsupportable idea of bare awareness, which never made any sense, we now have bare attention. But that isn't quite right, though, is it? Attention always implies someone who is attending. Which is to say, there is no such thing as bare attention.

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Re: Bare attention

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:14 am


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Re: Bare attention

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:24 am

Bare attention is the means by which we find out the answer to whether there is an attender. We assume nothing either way. We certainly do not cultivate the mind of the non existent.
Bare attention is the question and will lead to its answer.

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Re: Bare attention

Postby Ben » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:42 am

Hi Tilt,
Thanks so much for reproducing Ven Bodhi's article. It corresponds nicely to my own practice and understanding.
I'm not sure whether there is anything more that I can add.
kind regards

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Bare attention

Postby bodom » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:52 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Bare attention

Postby PeterB » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:44 pm

Thats the one Bodom. :anjali:


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