Oh! Thank you!christopher::: wrote:Hi Annabel. I think he's saying E-Sangha is probably history.
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Phew... And I was questioning my understanding.tiltbillings wrote: it is not the most grammatically graceful sentence I have written.
Oh...Basically, E-Sangha is kaputt. Or so it would seem.
Perhaps. But wasn't there a vow?If the membership-base files are intact, but the data base irretrievably corrupt, there would be no reason not to re-start it, given the large user base and the large number of people who liked E-Sangha as a place to talk. The fact that Leo's "Buddhisty Community" is being poorly moderated, allowing a lot of negativity to flourish and that E-Sangha has not been re-started with the intact membership-base files, suggests that Leo's heart is not in this anymore, but those are just observations from afar and could be totally wrong.
Perhaps he is inundated with work....
I hope he is well...
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Greetings Annabel,
Metta,
Retro.
Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?Annabel wrote:Perhaps. But wasn't there a vow?
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Oh, I see. Well, I am very grateful to E-Sangha since it was the first board that helped me to orientate myself in this swamp of buddhist opinions, papers, traditions, views etc. I don't remember when I joined E-Sangha (around 2006-7?) where I had been lurking until last year (and where I was directed here, as a matter of fact (and for which I am grateful, too)).retrofuturist wrote: Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?
There might have been some upsides and downsides to E-Sangha, but personaly speaking, it has been a good "beginners lighthouse", so if indeed it is either irretrievable or the owner is too discourage to rebuild it, R.I.P, E-Sangha, you did open doors, indeed ...
PS: Apologies for bad grammar, I am kind of tired and the sentences seem to get jumbled in my brain.
Jumbled, is this even an existing word?!
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Good points, Vardali. Without E-sangha, many of us here may have never met in the online world.
Thank you Andreas.Andreas Ludwig wrote:Christopher,
As far as I know yes, that has been considered by Leo and it's not surprising, since with a database beyond the point of a possible recovery (I don't know if that's the case, though) it will be the only choice left if we want to see ES as a forum back online. As I said previously, I doubt that this will be anytime soon, but I have no doubts that Leo is working to bring it back.Well, i'll restate my earlier question, specifically to former E-S moderators who are currently members here...Does anyone know if the idea of rebooting E-S with membership intact (but data lost) has been considered by Leo
Gassho
Andreas
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So, this is what I keep coming back to, in a confused daze. Leo is PAYING money for Buddhist Community. So why abandon it? Is he unbelievably wealthy?
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.
Sutta Nipāta 3.710
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.
Sutta Nipāta 3.710
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It's not that expensive to put a website up, depending on how it's done.Monkey Mind wrote:So, this is what I keep coming back to, in a confused daze. Leo is PAYING money for Buddhist Community. So why abandon it? Is he unbelievably wealthy?
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Vardali wrote:Oh, I see. Well, I am very grateful to E-Sangha since it was the first board that helped me to orientate myself in this swamp of buddhist opinions, papers, traditions, views etc. I don't remember when I joined E-Sangha (around 2006-7?) where I had been lurking until last year (and where I was directed here, as a matter of fact (and for which I am grateful, too)).retrofuturist wrote: Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?
There might have been some upsides and downsides to E-Sangha, but personaly speaking, it has been a good "beginners lighthouse", so if indeed it is either irretrievable or the owner is too discourage to rebuild it, R.I.P, E-Sangha, you did open doors, indeed ...
PS: Apologies for bad grammar, I am kind of tired and the sentences seem to get jumbled in my brain.
Jumbled, is this even an existing word?!
Hi
A great big 'ditto' to Vardali from me too! E-Sangha was my stepping stone too.
I was directed to E-Sangha as a distinct 'beginner' and found it a useful vessel for untangling and understanding the information coming at me from all angles! I found it friendly, informal and endlessly forgiving of beginner blunders!
I met my first Buddhist friends online at E-Sangha ,and went on to be friends with them offline too. I in turn recommended it to a friend of mine who also found it a safe and comfortable place to ask her own questions.
Despite all the problems I for one am sad to see the end of the E-Sangha era.
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Me too. I learned a lot there.msmedusa wrote: Hi
A great big 'ditto' to Vardali from me too! E-Sangha was my stepping stone too.
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Despite all the problems I for one am sad to see the end of the E-Sangha era.
Kim
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I think that it all depends on whether teyes wants to go down that route again. I am unreliably informed that he may not.
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PeterB wrote:I think that it all depends on whether teyes wants to go down that route again. I am unreliably informed that he may not.
What is the source of your information, please? This is the first time I've heard such a claim. Did you contact him?
eijo, a former global moderator
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Same here. It may not be time yet to say the era is over...Kim O'Hara wrote:Me too. I learned a lot there.msmedusa wrote: Hi
A great big 'ditto' to Vardali from me too! E-Sangha was my stepping stone too.
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Despite all the problems I for one am sad to see the end of the E-Sangha era.
Kim
Eijo, hi, nice to see you again.
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Not I Eijo. A third party which is why I said " unreliably ". Not that the person is unreliable, just that it is not first hand.sagara wrote:PeterB wrote:I think that it all depends on whether teyes wants to go down that route again. I am unreliably informed that he may not.
What is the source of your information, please? This is the first time I've heard such a claim. Did you contact him?
eijo, a former global moderator
Anyway, now you are here, why not pull up a chair and have a cup of tea ?
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E-sangha outlived its usefulness sometime ago. It is natural for things to split apart, and E-Sangha could not be everything to everyone. Even if E-Sangha were to return, it is most unlikely that I would be participating much, if at all, and certainly not as a mod or an admin.
If you want to see what I am up to, you can visit http://www.bhaisajya.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://sakyatradition.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Best wishes,
Namdrol
If you want to see what I am up to, you can visit http://www.bhaisajya.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://sakyatradition.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Best wishes,
Namdrol
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It's a veritable e-sangha fest now.mfesmith wrote:E-sangha outlived its usefulness sometime ago. It is natural for things to split apart, and E-Sangha could not be everything to everyone. Even if E-Sangha were to return, it is most unlikely that I would be participating much, if at all, and certainly not as a mod or an admin.
If you want to see what I am up to, you can visit http://www.bhaisajya.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://sakyatradition.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Best wishes,
Namdrol
Fun to see you here. Can we expect to see you elsewhere online if an inter-sectarian forum were to pop up that suited your tastes or are you forum celibate these days?