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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby zavk » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:33 pm

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Dan74 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:36 pm

Suggestions for improvement?

1. At ZFI we had an Ombudsperson for a while, whose role was to represent disgruntled member and mediate between members and the mod team when conflicts arose. In some ways it was valuable because disgruntled members felt they had someone "on the inside" tuned to their concerns. One of the concerns was what power should the Ombudsperson have? A vote like a moderator, more, less?

2. Another thing that was once suggested is to allow some specific space for discussions of the board, including mod actions, with a a least a modicum of civility. That was voted down but it would have been interesting to see it tried for a little while at least to help transparency.

3. Get-togethers are happening, perhaps other community-building initiatives would be good too. There are study groups already, but perhaps also a meditation journal thread, synchronised sits, temple visits + dana etc..?

Just a few possibilities that popped up.
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby phil » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:40 pm

Personally I wouldn't care if some idiot chose to blog that the Buddha is a XXX , so I certainly don't care if someone chooses to spend valuable time during his or her rare human existence to blog about an internet forum. I've spent quite a lot of time in internet groups and while I'm sure we all agree that it's great to have a place to exchange appreciation of the Buddha's teaching, there is a tendency to get attached to these places and they become central to our practices which is a bit weird/unwise when you think of it.

But I do appreciate Dhammawheel. Thanks.

edit- I removed the blasphemous image I presented of the BUddha, a bit overboard.
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(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby andre9999 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:44 pm

All I really got from this thread and the blog is...

If DW is the worst experience you've ever had on the internet, maybe you should check out 4chan for some perspective.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:54 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby phil » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:02 am

Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby christopher::: » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:13 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby christopher::: » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:25 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Kenshou » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:31 am

In the context of the general state of the internet this forum is pretty high-quality.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Kenshou » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:03 am

Skeleton smoking a cigarette while using the computer day?

Eh?

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Kenshou » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:03 am

D'oh, I get it.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jechbi » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:19 am

I should have made this much more clear earlier in the thread: Tilt, please know that I do very much appreciate and accept your apology. I regard your apology as a generous gift. I don't believe I've ever directly asked for an apology. At those times when I've felt that you "owed" me an apology, I have tried to let it go. I have never expected an apology. Since you have offered this gift, I am very happy to accept it now. Thank you very much.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jechbi » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:08 am

I'd like to clarify that the blog was never intended to make any misrepresentations, and if it contains any, I hope I have addressed them. If not, I will do so upon specific request. (Tilt, I've changed the wording in the "mindful masturbation" reference. You have persuaded me that I misunderstood what you were trying to say. I apologize for misunderstanding you. I also wish to articulate to you exactly the same apology: It was never my intent to be hurtful to you, but that does not excuse my behavior. By acts of commission and omission, for what I pain I have caused you, I am sorry.)

I'd like to clarify that the blog was never intended to be a place to "vent." It was supposed to be a place to open up discussion that cannot occur otherwise. Yes, I have offered criticism. Yes, I have provided a few examples of instances when I think discussion on Dhamma Wheel (and elsewhere) was counterproductive to the goal of sharing Dhamma. I have tried to be specific in those cases, and I have tried to focus on the acts that occurred, not the nature of the people involved. I have abiding respect for Tilt, Retro and everyone here as fellow human beings struggling along this hard path.

I believe Jhana4 suggested I go into minutiae in this thread. I don't think that's a good idea in this thread. I don't think the thread is supposed to be about me. If people are interested, they can go to the blog.

Here is my suggestion for how to improve the DW experience: Create a place on the board where members can publicly comment on moderator and administrator decisions, as well as moderator and administrator conduct. Lift the restrictions on that type of criticism. Open yourselves to public criticism here on this board, from any and all members, even if you think the criticism is unfair. And allow the criticism to stand and be visible when it is made (unless there are compelling reasons not to, such as threats or defamation).

If you create such a place on this board, I will take down any parts of the blog that you ask me to, as long as you do not ask me to delete the whole thing. I like some of the non-Dhamma Wheel posts there. Bottom line: If public criticism of moderator and administrator decisions and conduct had been allowed, the blog would have had no reason to exist.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:11 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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