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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Wizard in the Forest » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:39 am

Speak for yourself. I find Tilt's wit refreshing. :jumping:

Oh Tilt, you seriously are too patient, and don't give yourself enough credit.
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Dan74 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:41 am

Maybe we should have a weekly ritual banning of Tilt to restore joy and mirth all around! :D
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Postby Wizard in the Forest » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:42 am

REJECTION.
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Viscid » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:53 am

Was just kidding Tilt, I like your character. :rolleye:
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Postby zavk » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:39 am

Hi all

I've had the privilege of meeting face-to-face three of the current mods, and knowing how they each have their day-to-day responsibilities to meet, much kudos to them for the effort they've put in. (Oh, this is not to say those whom I haven't met don't deserve kudos too... nudge nudge wink wink say no more). My comments:

- Re: the blog. It is a good move to acknowledge it. It is only fair to the blogger, the mods, and the members here. Well done.

- Re: the attitude shown towards certain members/the behaviour of certain members. I do not wish to comment about the people involve. But generally speaking, I personally have no problem ignoring things I find objectionable and would underscore what Ven. Appicchato said. But to regulate this is tricky because a particular post could be interpreted differently by different people. HOWEVER, if a number of people do express concerns, and especially if these people are regular readers/posters, then I think it is something that should be acknowledged and seriously considered.
With metta,
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jechbi » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:46 am

Thank you very much Retro for creating this thread, and for all of your hard work here. I would like to say again that I also believe Dhamma Wheel can be a great place for discussion, and I've never stopped being a Dhamma Wheel supporter. I've tried to make that clear on my blog. The entire blog enterprise was something that I tried to do with an attitude of friendship, and I acknowledge that it has not turned out as I expected. Although I have tried to preface most of the entries with praise for Dhamma Wheel and expressions of gratitude and good will, the feedback I have received indicates that these sentiments are not regarded as sincere. Please know that they are sincere.

The blog contains criticism. That's a touchy subject. Is it ever proper to offer public criticism? Should we ever speak out when we see things happening that appear to have a potentially harmful effect on others? Maybe not. I'm not sure the blog is the right thing to do, but doing nothing and saying nothing also didn't seem right.

I'm very happy that most people are having a wonderful experience with Dhamma Wheel. I suspect that there are also members whose experience has been less than wonderful. Some of them may already have left. Some of them may feel it's not worth speaking up. Some may be lurkers whose voices will not be heard. If you are interested in my concerns, the blog is there. There's no reason for me to go into detail here, and in any case, doing so would be a violation of TOS.

I did write this sentence: "The bottom line is that my experience at Dhamma Wheel has been by far the most negative experience I’ve ever had on the web." And that is a true statement. I am troubled by some of what I have encountered as a result of my interactions with Dhamma Wheel leadership. There have been serious and potentially damaging consequences for me as a result of creating the blog. Some of these I have discussed in the blog. Some of them I have not yet discussed. Some of the things I have been called, privately and publicly, are inappropriate, in my opinion.

I came to Dhamma Wheel for one purpose: To share Dhamma. I expected it to be an encouraging, collaborative environment. I expected to make Dhamma friends. Yes, I also expected debate and the occasional misunderstanding. I didn't expect to see name-calling, and I didn't expect to be subject to quite so much ridicule. What I have learned is that I should have left my expectations at the door.

The blog is there for its stated purpose, which is to create an open space where things can be aired that might otherwise not be aired. And it is also a place where people may feel free to post legitimate comments that are not allowed on Dhamma Wheel, or that Dhamma Wheel has made invisible for whatever reason. Maybe nobody will ever want to take advantage of such a venue, but it is there if anybody does.

Thank you David N. Snyder for this wonderful gift of Dhamma Wheel, and thank you Retro, Tilt, Ben and the rest for all your hard work moderating. I know it is not easy. I have never intended for my criticism to diminish in any way the valuable contributions that I know you all make.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Sylvester » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:59 am

Well, I'm just glad that the Mods here keep a rein on things, each particular sub-forum having a customised rein for it, with regulation being done with a light touch.

I can't understand the complaint about the plaintiff feeling shut out. If anything, the Mods have been very generous in ensuring that no one faction monopolises or runs down the other.

But, a limit has to be, and has been drawn, to this generosity. I dread the day when DW becomes so ecumenical that it no longer lives as a forum for the Theravada. May it never come to pass that the Mods become so soft that they allow Mormons and Tom Cruises to over-run the place. :alien:

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Postby PeterB » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:00 am

Amen to that Sylvester.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:33 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:47 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Aloka » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:06 pm

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I know, lets all just have a party instead - and exchange warm kissie-huggies,tea and cakes!



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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:15 pm

LOL
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby christopher::: » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:54 pm

The administration at DW has acknowledged your greivences Jechbi, they've given you the chance to present your perspective publicly here, which is in many ways an attack on Tilt's character. He's apologized. The ball is now in your court.

Can you drop it, just let go? Dhammapada first verses style...

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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