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Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

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Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby Nyana » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:32 pm

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby bodom » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:54 pm

Excellent Geoff, thank you.

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:10 am

Yeah, well, it can be without doubt shown that there were Mahayana bits and pieces in the Theravadin history of ideas, but that, even taking all of the above to account, is a long, long way from finding within the mainstream Theravada anything that looks like the Mahayana bodhisattva path structures and deified Buddha and diminished arhat that characterizes any of the major hermeneutic schools of the Mahayana.

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Postby Paññāsikhara » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:14 am

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My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby alan » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:18 am

Nothing I've read in the Suttas says anything about Boddisattvas.

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Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:14 am

There are times when I wonderif I have accidentally wandered into a Theravadin website.
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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby gavesako » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:23 am

If you read the introduction to the Nalaka Sutta (which seems to be a commentary inserted before the actual dialogue of the Buddha) you can clearly see the beginnings of the Bodhisattva doctrine taking shape already -- the little prince at his birth is already the greatest being in the universe destined to roll the wheel of Dhamma:
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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:14 am

So if someone zonks us on the head with a vase with a peacock feather attached,some Bodhisattva stuff attaches to us does it Bhante ?
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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:05 am

I think Sri Lanka should reclaim some of its mahayanic roots, as without Buddhas (and bodisatvas) there would be no arahanths!
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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby BlackBird » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:42 pm

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:43 pm

The Suttas talk about the Bodhisattva ...singular. The Buddha to be. In our age that was Gautama Siddhartha. All other Bodhisattvas are literary devices and/or left overs from the Vedanta. Which were smuggled back into Buddhism via the Mahayana. Do you really not know Nana that this is the mainstream Theravada view ? Or do you just like playing Maras Advocate ?
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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

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Re: Bodhisattva Path: Historical Aspects In Theravāda

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 pm

In every age there is one Buddha per world system. Shakyamuni is the Buddha for this age. Metteya for the next age/world system.

Avalokiteshvara , Tara, Manjushri et al are borrowings from the Vedanta incorporated into the mahayana by a regrettable lapse into the pre Buddhist cosmology of the Indian Subcontinent. Gilding the lily.
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