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Agganna Sutta

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Re: Agganna Sutta

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby Kenshou » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:59 pm

There is more observable, reproduceable, potentially falsifiable data in support of evolution and natural selection than there is for the Buddha's omniscience. (And weather or not these origin-of-life tales in the suttas should be interpreted as-is like this is another issue that seems to have been swept under the rug)

But of course, faith doesn't need to recognize silly facts like that.

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Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Postby son of dhamma » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:03 pm

I am the last person to prescribe to anything that issues blind faith. Extreme skepticism is the way of the Buddhadhamma. Regardless of what you presume to think, I do not put all of my faith and confidence into every scrap of the Pali Canon without a little thought--and I completely discourage that for everyone. My inference into the Abdhidhamma and Agganna Sutta of the Buddhadhamma is based firstly on my practical experience which comes from practicing the Noble Eightfold path, including meditation, and secondly that I can understand the Abhidhamma by standing on this practical experience, and use that Abhidhamma knowledge to infer about the whole of the Buddhadhamma. I have faith in the Buddhadhamma in that way, and in that way only.
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Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby son of dhamma » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:07 pm

Also, due to my practical experience of the Buddhadhamma, I have seen pettas, asuras, and the devas of Catumaharajika, who are "tree spirits" and who also live in lakes and springs, and I have talked with and interacted with them. This I think means that I know at least of the Pettivisaya, Asurayoni, and Catumaharajika planes from personal experience.
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Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:53 pm

So, the Aggañña Sutta must be taken as being totally seriously, that there is no humor in it, no dismantling the Brahmanical notions via the use of humor; that never happened in this discourse or any other. Is that what is going on here - a deadly serious discourse describing the world exactly and actually as it is?

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