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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby effort » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:47 pm

just create a poll to vote:

- inspiring story
- fake
- i dont know

for me theravada means practical practices to come and find out, not stories.... but sometimes stories are really inspiring also, like the story about a monk who carried a woman to the other side of river and his colleague noticed it later and he replied i put that there but you still carry it on...
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby Laurens » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:08 pm

fabianfred wrote:My teacher, told about a boy who recalled his past life and remembered being shot. The person he was in his previous life was in the same village and everything he said was confirmed by his family. The place he had been shot showed as a birthmark.


Baloney.

Here's what could have happened; a kid make believes that he was shot, many, many kids have such fantasies. The parents believe this is a sign that he was shot in a past life, they put words into the kid's mouth and the whole story gets manipulated by people wanting to believe that it is rebirth. They find a case of someone being shot in the next village and persuade the boy to admit it was him in a past life. The birth mark may be an addition or manipulation to the story, or it may even just be a coincidence. What is was not, is proof of rebirth.

How do you know that story is true anyway? I have memories of a past life where I was a bank robber who got stabbed in the back by a mob of vigilantes out to protect themselves. I have a birthmark on my back. I found out there was a bank robber in the next city who died in those very circumstances. Proof of rebirth? Quite possibly, except for the fact that I just made all of it up.

There are more explanations to that story than just rebirth...
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby Viscid » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:58 pm

It's a sad truth that when a student loves their teacher, they'll convince themselves to believe just about anything their teacher says.

How can you doubt your teacher when he has taught you so much truth and wisdom? When you see he has so much more experience than you?

When are you supposed to have faith in your teacher's knowledge and experience, and when are you supposed to be skeptical of him?

If he says something you do not believe, then does that mean you may have been convinced of other falsehoods?

Is it better to just have complete faith and avoid all doubt?
"What holds attention determines action." - William James
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:51 am

Bubbabuddhist wrote:Enhancing one's lexicographic prowess is an expeditious route to eschewing obfuscation!

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Entranced by one's lexical acumen, one may cheerfully obfuscate one's every utterance - at least so far as the hoi polloi are concerned - but sesquipedalianism is, fortunately, quickly curable by association with bogans.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby Marcus Epicurus » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:45 am

:stirthepot:

WOW....I am amazed at the attacks on fabianfred .

I didn't see anything wrong with the story, in fact I think it had a message that we could all learn from.

You can attack me for supporting fabianfred if you want, and it wont bother me one bit.

And what difference does it make if fabianfred is ordained or not? Does that mean we should treat him different than any other sentient creature.

Wow...I cant believe some of the non-buddhist behavior from not only this forum, but other so called Dhamma forums as well.

I may be a lot of things, I may not be enlightened...but I am not mean.

:soap:
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby andre9999 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:03 am

bluebuddha wrote::stirthepot:

WOW....I am amazed at the attacks on fabianfred .

I didn't see anything wrong with the story, in fact I think it had a message that we could all learn from.

You can attack me for supporting fabianfred if you want, and it wont bother me one bit.

And what difference does it make if fabianfred is ordained or not? Does that mean we should treat him different than any other sentient creature.

Wow...I cant believe some of the non-buddhist behavior from not only this forum, but other so called Dhamma forums as well.

I may be a lot of things, I may not be enlightened...but I am not mean.

:soap:


Edit: Not my best moment and off topic.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:07 pm

jcsuperstar wrote:we should probably just treat everyone here with respect, :group:


:thanks:

Thanks jc.

May your rebirth be as fortunate or more.

Thanks Bhante,

That was a great story. I just read it for the first time today. :smile:
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby Tree » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:46 pm

bluebuddha wrote:Wow...I cant believe some of the non-buddhist behavior from not only this forum, but other so called Dhamma forums as well.


Yup,

Internet Dhamma..... Full of a lot of that. :juggling:

I left Buddhism completely because of that.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:42 pm

Tree wrote:Internet Dhamma..... Full of a lot of that. :juggling:

I left Buddhism completely because of that.


It's up to you of course, but no need to leave Buddhism. Buddhism is full of Buddhists, not Buddhas.

We're not perfect . . . yet.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby legolas » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:45 pm

Tree wrote:
bluebuddha wrote:Wow...I cant believe some of the non-buddhist behavior from not only this forum, but other so called Dhamma forums as well.


Yup,

Internet Dhamma..... Full of a lot of that. :juggling:

I left Buddhism completely because of that.


Not entirely, or you would'nt be posting :console:

I can understand why you might feel like that, there are a lot of nasty ninnies out there, but don't let a few narrow minded mean spirits obscure the glory of the Dhamma. Insincere practicioners are to be found in all walks of life, unfortunately on the net their insincerity can be hidden behind manufactured respectability.

Keep with the Dhamma!
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby CSEe » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:12 am

All living and non-living in this world and entire universe and beyond is a form of energy . All these energy are not pure but moving towards a pure / sound energy of emptiness ...free of any feeling / emotion etc.....THE BUDDHA .

Buddha is not human or in any form , in any shape or in any awareness.....Buddha is pure....EMPTINESS ....
Siddharta found Buddha from his fear of old,sick , death and fear of not knowing . He understood Buddha and all Pollutant , in human case call "life"....he understood these so call suffering and he did not feel any suffering after he found Buddha .
Therefore ALL SUFFERING SHOULD END AFTER SIDDHARTA FOUND BUDDHA . i belief he was WRONGLY QUOTED...thay is why suffering continue till now.....


Buddha is NOT FAKE . In Buddha is empty..pure without any emotion , no right or wrong ......nothing without any pollutant.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby PeterB » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:43 am

Sez who ?
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby CSEe » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:22 am

Sir , actor is not important but the moral of the story is .
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:24 am

CSEe wrote:Sir , actor is not important but the moral of the story is .
Where from are you getting your story?
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby CSEe » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:36 am

I always belief in Siddharta search .....if you sincerely observe nature you could see Buddha is in all. Sincerely give love , share love and accept love , DO NOT -fear to learn , fear to share , fear to accept you will move to higher awareness .

You know surely.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby PeterB » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:42 am

You are expressing , in limited English, a pastiche of Mahayana views . This is a Theravadin website....I am not psychic but I foresee problems.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby CSEe » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:50 am

Sir .....pls do not mistaken me ........I am totally aware and sincerely want to learn.

My way of searching Buddha may be different from yours but I respect that ,knowing by my belief that Buddha could be learned from all sources........
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby PeterB » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:00 am

The Theravada view is that the Buddha was an historical person...not an abstract principle or supersoul, and that his teaching is best preserved in the Pali Canon. If you want to come to an understanding of the Theravada then you need need at least some knowledge of the Canon...where you will find what the Buddha said his own teaching was about.
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby CSEe » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:11 am

sir , I belief that siddharta dead for thousand of years ....even his actual year of death still in question or his last meal. I dont read monk's book but I like gossip about his life just like I gossip about Micheal Jackson .

BUT ....I want to belief as little of the so call teaching as possible because no one can be sure what is actual .
I belief his fear , his search and his finding of Buddha . I belief is his wish we explore and continue to find answer. I belief he was wrongly quoted that cause suffering to continues.....

I dont wish to believe work of monk is associated with Buddha ....infact no one can claim ...all of us are too far from Buddha..simply because each of us human , animal ,plant , virus and non-living is equal ....and in some way expressing Buddha spirit..sorry in advance
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Re: Buddha is fake

Postby PeterB » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:42 am

CSEe wrote:sir , I belief that siddharta dead for thousand of years ....even his actual year of death still in question or his last meal. I dont read monk's book but I like gossip about his life just like I gossip about Micheal Jackson .

BUT ....I want to belief as little of the so call teaching as possible because no one can be sure what is actual .
I belief his fear , his search and his finding of Buddha . I belief is his wish we explore and continue to find answer. I belief he was wrongly quoted that cause suffering to continues.....

I dont wish to believe work of monk is associated with Buddha ....infact no one can claim ...all of us are too far from Buddha..simply because each of us human , animal ,plant , virus and non-living is equal ....and in some way expressing Buddha spirit..sorry in advance

No need to apologise. What you have stated are views held by many Mahyana Buddhists.
The Theravada takes its postion from a very different point of view.
That Gautama Buddha was the Buddha for this age. That he taught his dhamma , the dhamma that he rediscovered when he became Enlightened. That this dhamma is best preseved in the Pali Canon and that living the dhamma lies in applying those teachings for ourselves...not discovering our own truth..because our own truth will always be mundane and limited.
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