Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

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Greetings Hanzze,
Hanzze wrote:But it is only a opinion to point that out.
Yes, as you so frequently do when a moderator or administrator tries to keep things on topic.

:focus:

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Phra Chuntawongso wrote:An issue which I have not seen addresed in this thread yet is a deliberate destruction of fruit and veg for monatery purposes.
This is something that I was unaware of until working on an apple orchard in the UK one year.
We had been picking fruit for a number of weeks,when the farmer came and told us that the following day we would begin to do INTERVENTION picking.Having never heard of this before I asked what it was.
Hold onto your hats folks coz what follows is TRUE.
The farmer had picked his yearly allowed quota of apples(EU quota)and could not pick any more apples for sending to market,so he would now be paid to pick his remaining crop-first class fruit only and an EU inspector would come to inspect the fruit quality and tonnage and then the fruit would be dumped on the ground and heavy farm machinary would be driven over it to insure it did not end up in the market place.
Farmers are also paid not to plant all of their land,it is called set aside land.
This ensures that there is not an over abundance of fruit and veg,therefore keeping prices up.
I am told this also happens with coffee growers,but having never picked coffee beans cannot say for sure.
P.S. I quit my job that day.It just didn't seem right to get paid for something that I felt was immoral.
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I understand your sentiments.

Monoculture has this effect of wasting away what small/er farmers would have used.

I recall that the parents of my best friend, farmers across the street, left excess fruit for the pigs, horses and chicken to munch on...
Of course that makles for healthy animals, when they can roam around freely and enjoy the sun and some freedon, and have their small adventures with each other...hegde hogs, frogs....grass hoppers, butterflies.....

It was nice to see chicken with a bunch of tiny yellow ones around them...very nice to hold one in the hand and stroke the soft plumage :heart:
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Annapurna wrote:
Phra Chuntawongso wrote:An issue which I have not seen addresed in this thread yet is a deliberate destruction of fruit and veg for monatery purposes.
This is something that I was unaware of until working on an apple orchard in the UK one year.
We had been picking fruit for a number of weeks,when the farmer came and told us that the following day we would begin to do INTERVENTION picking.Having never heard of this before I asked what it was.
Hold onto your hats folks coz what follows is TRUE.
The farmer had picked his yearly allowed quota of apples(EU quota)and could not pick any more apples for sending to market,so he would now be paid to pick his remaining crop-first class fruit only and an EU inspector would come to inspect the fruit quality and tonnage and then the fruit would be dumped on the ground and heavy farm machinary would be driven over it to insure it did not end up in the market place.
Farmers are also paid not to plant all of their land,it is called set aside land.
This ensures that there is not an over abundance of fruit and veg,therefore keeping prices up.
I am told this also happens with coffee growers,but having never picked coffee beans cannot say for sure.
P.S. I quit my job that day.It just didn't seem right to get paid for something that I felt was immoral.
With metta
I understand your sentiments.

Monoculture has this effect of wasting away what small/er farmers would have used.

I recall that the parents of my best friend, farmers across the street, left excess fruit for the pigs, horses and chicken to munch on...
Of course that makles for healthy animals, when they can roam around freely and enjoy the sun and some freedon, and have their small adventures with each other...hegde hogs, frogs....grass hoppers, butterflies.....

It was nice to see chicken with a bunch of tiny yellow ones around them...very nice to hold one in the hand and stroke the soft plumage :heart:
Sorry Retro,slightly of topic here,but I'd love to read a book about the hedge hogs,frogs,grass hoppers etc having small adventures together.Thanks for the pleasant scene you painted for us Anna.
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Maybe we can start a new thread and make our own dhamma wheel cutsie animal story with us all adding bits. :focus: That could be good for our emotional health.
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Yes, Phra Greg, that could be good.

I will start one. :anjali:
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