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Truly random events?

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Truly random events?

Postby Jechbi » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:36 am

Is there any room in the five niyamas for truly random events of the variety that quantum physics seems to describe? Or has the study of physics simply not reached an advanced enough stage to be able to recognize the underlying orderliness of this seeming chaos?

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Re: Truly random events?

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:41 am

isnt the randomness of the universe only when theres no life though?
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Re: Truly random events?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:45 am

at the quantum level there seems to be chaos, such as things poping into exsistence from nothing and then ceasing again (thats my basic understanding)
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Re: Truly random events?

Postby Individual » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:00 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Truly random events?

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Re: Truly random events?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:33 pm

Greetings,

I think the word "random" is a bit loaded.

What the Buddha said was that all conditioned phenomena have a cause - they are not causeless.

That is enough.

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Re: Truly random events?

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:12 am

If by "random" you mean "currently unmeasurable and therefore unpredictable" then sure we've got lots of things that we can't currently measure and predict. If you mean "absolutely unmeasurable and therefore absolutely unpredictable" then I'm not certain if Buddhism touches on this topic.
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Re: Truly random events?

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