TMingyur wrote: the characteristic mark of conceptuality which is (active) "addition" or "contruction" of what "is not (there)" in the first place.
I don't have a problem with this definition, but I still don't see what has been added that is not there when a sensation is noticed and a reaction to that sensation is noticed.
TMingyur wrote:
Because even if there is no full-fledged "idea" or "thought" the characteristic mark of discerning is "'this' but not 'not-this'" which is active construction of "this" (and "not-this"). But without active construction there is no "this" in the first place.Ok, so I notice a sensation and I notice a reaction to that sensation, please explain how this is conceptual.
Since we don't understand english the same lets try Pali terms, what you are effectively saying is there is no such thing as Vinnana that immediately something is concious the conciousness of it is automatically Sanna and Sankhara.
But in Buddhist psychology as I understand it Vinnana leads to Sanna leads to Sankhara, wheras you are happy to lump all three under the term Concept I understand the only Sankhara to have the same meaning as the english word Concept.
I would have thought that one of the results of Buddhist practice is supposed to be that Sanna does not have to lead to Sankhara, one way we achieve this is by putting our energy and attention to Vinnana and Sanna, this helps us to discern the process and discern when Sankhara is useful and necessary and when it is a delusion. Of course these three are in operation all the time and there's nothing wrong with that but one of the main roots of suffering is that we mistake Sankhara for Vinnana or Sanna, we mistake concepts for reality, your interpretation seems to me to reinforce that.
TMingyur wrote:
Your basis of defining "non-conceptuality" seems to be a combination of "non-grasping" and "non-attachment" and "non-verbalization" and "equanimity".
How so? I haven't even mentioned any of those things.
Of course grasping conceptuality is a cause of suffering however if you can't differentiate between conceptuality and the processes of conciousness and perception first how can you let go of that grasping?