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siddhartha2010
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equanimity

Postby siddhartha2010 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:31 am

Hi all,

I have been practising goyenka ji tradition for five years have sat few 10 day courses, satipatthana as well and have been meditating daily rougly 3, 4 hours. I understand we are suppose to remain equanimous to every experience. But when I read some of your comments I see nimitta, bhanga and other concentrative stages and so on. I am happy with the way it is going and am not expecting this or that stage. maintaining equanimity to every situation is the teaching. my question is that could it be something that has something to do with the instructions that I am not following.
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Re: equanimity

Postby Ben » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:41 am

Hi siddhartha2010

If what you are doing is maintaining sati and sampajjano and remaining equanimous with regards to anything you are experiencing - then you are following the instructions. Keep in mind that different people progress at different rates. Craving a particular meditative experience actually creates a barrier to its development. So in those immortal words from the 1980s pop song, Don't worry - be happy!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: equanimity

Postby siddhartha2010 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:07 pm

Hi Ben

Thank you.. Your posts are inspring and motivating.

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Re: equanimity

Postby Ben » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:18 pm

Thanks. I'm glad I can be of help.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: equanimity

Postby zavk » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:09 pm

Hi siddhartha2010

I'm a student of Goenkaji too. Ever since my first course I've always taken this advice by Goenkaji to heart: 'The only yardstick for measuring progress is how quickly we come out of misery or how much less misery we experience.' These may not be the exact words but I am very sure he said something like that in one of the discourses.

All the best.
With metta,
zavk

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Re: equanimity

Postby siddhartha2010 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:21 pm

yes.. he mentioned this on the 3 day course. I find "accept the nature as it is.. nature has manifested the reality as it..I have something to add to it that it "sati and sampajanno" (thanks Ben).

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Re: equanimity

Postby rowyourboat » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:38 pm

Hi Ben,

Is maintaining equanimity or being aware of impermanence of sensations, the objective of the practice?
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Re: equanimity

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Re: equanimity

Postby kirk5a » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:55 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: equanimity

Postby PeterB » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:00 pm

Of course they are not the objective. I cant imagine that anyone would actually mistake the means for the end...unless they were politically motivated to ask the question.

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Re: equanimity

Postby kirk5a » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:02 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: equanimity

Postby PeterB » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:09 pm

And the fact that RYB has a history going back to E Sangha of signalling to Ben his aversion to Goenka is of course mere coincidence... :lol:

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Re: equanimity

Postby kirk5a » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:13 pm

:smile: I have become aware of the "history" but I think there's value in the question anyway.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: equanimity

Postby PeterB » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 pm

;)

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Re: equanimity

Postby Ben » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:55 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: equanimity

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Re: equanimity

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:41 pm

Thanks Ben, indeed- having developed samadhi, with a mind of equanimity, watching the impermanence of bodily sensations is truly vipassana.

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Re: equanimity

Postby Ben » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:58 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: equanimity

Postby zavk » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:38 pm

With metta,
zavk

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Re: equanimity

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