PeterB wrote:They are mutually dependant.
PeterB wrote:Of course they are not the objective. I cant imagine that anyone would actually mistake the means for the end...unless they were politically motivated to ask the question.
rowyourboat wrote:Hi Ben,
Is maintaining equanimity or being aware of impermanence of sensations, the objective of the practice?
*A Special Message From Mother Sayama And Saya U Chit Tin*
While in Sydney for the auspicious Water Festival course in April
1981, Mother Sayama and Saya U Chit Tin were requested to give a message
on Dhamma practise to the students in Australia. This is the message:
"Regarding the training in //Sila//, //Samadhi// and //Panna// our
message is to lay emphasis on Samadhi. Sayagyi U Ba Khin had said: "For a
good experience of Anicca (Impermanence), Samadhi must be good. If Samadhi
is excellent, awareness of Anicca will also be excellent." Sayagyi's
Teacher, Saya Thetgyi, recounted: "My Teacher, Ledi Sayadaw, frequently
reminded me, 'Maung Thet, work on your Samadhi diligently. If the Samadhi
Sasana (teachings of Tranquility) is well established, then the Panna
Sasana (teachings on Insight) will also become established.'"
Ledi Sayadaw was a Burmese monk and a Pali scholar who was known to
scholars of many western countries and perhaps one of the outstanding
Buddhist figures of this age. Saya Thetgyi, therefore, worked earnestly on
Anapana for 7 years and then Vipassana for another 7 years. Finally he was
praised by his Teacher, who authorised him to teach meditation beginning
with a course at the Ledi-Tawya-Taik Monastery of his Teacher. The monk
scholars of his Teacher were among the students of the first batch of his
Buddha said, "Develop your Samadhi. If Samadhi is developed then you
see things in their true perspective."...
"The Path must be trodden by each individual; Buddhas do but point
*Keep Coming back to Anapana-Sati (watching over in- and out-
breathing)*, for, if developed and frequently practised, this will bring
you high reward and great advantage.
When Samadhi (concentration) is established and developed,
contemplation of sensation on the Body will be easy and almost
instantaneous. You will dwell with full energy, clearly conscious,
attentive and fully engrossed, with the understanding and awareness of
Anicca (impermanence), Dukkha (suffering or ill) and Anatta (egolessness
Sayagyi U Ba Khin summed up thus: "This will give us the "Peace
within" and enable us to share it with all others. We will then radiate
such powerful and purified mental forces as will successfully counteract
the evil forces which are all around us. Just as the light of a single
candle has the power to dispel darkness in a room, so also the light
developed in one man can help dispel darkness in several others."
May all beings be happy
May they be liberated and win the Deathless.
rowyourboat wrote:Thanks Ben, indeed- having developed samadhi, with a mind of equanimity, watching the impermanence of bodily sensations is truly vipassana.
Ben wrote:When I was in Myanmar recently, I visited U Ba Khin's centre (IMC) three times and I also trecked out to Saya Thetgyi's centre across the Yangon River. Interestingly, monks still take courses of insight meditation at Saya Thetgyi's centre. I'll post photos and a full travelogue one of these days when I get some time!!
When I was in Myanmar recently, I visited U Ba Khin's centre (IMC) three times and I also trecked out to Saya Thetgyi's centre across the Yangon River. Interestingly, monks still take courses of insight meditation at Saya Thetgyi's centre. I'll post photos and a full travelogue one of these days when I get some time!!