Who is your favorite great disciple?

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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Wizard in the Forest » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:23 am

Sariputta, Angulimala, Khema, Dharmadinna, and Moggallana.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby clw_uk » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:25 am

Is this restricted to people who met and knew him or modern disciples as well?
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Wizard in the Forest » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:28 am

It's in the early Buddhism so I thought direct disciples.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:31 am

Nanda
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:38 am

And Bahiya.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Prasadachitta » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:12 pm

Dhammadina
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:02 pm

gabrielbranbury wrote:Dhammadina


I was just reading this sutta today

On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at
Baranasi in the Deer Park at Isipatana. Then the lay follower
Dhammadinna, together with five hundred lay followers,
approached the Blessed One, paid homage to him, and sat down
to one side. Sitting to one side, the lay follower Dhammadinna
then said to the Blessed One: “Let the Blessed One, venerable
sir, exhort us and instruct us in a way that may lead to our
welfare and happiness for a long time.”

"Therefore, Dhammadinna, you should train yourselves thus:
‘From time to time we will enter and dwell upon those
discourses spoken by the Tathagata that are deep, deep in
meaning, supramundane, dealing with emptiness.’ It is in such a
way that you should train yourselves.”

“Venerable sir, it is not easy for us – dwelling in a home
crowded with children, enjoying Kasian sandalwood, wearing
garlands, scents, and cosmetics, receiving gold and silver – from
time to time to enter and dwell upon those discourses spoken by
the Tathagata that are deep, deep in meaning, supramundane,
dealing with emptiness. As we are established in the five training
rules, let the Blessed One teach us the Dhamma further.”
“Therefore, Dhammadinna, you should train yourselves thus:
‘We will possess confirmed confidence in the Buddha... in the
Dhamma... in the Sangha.... We will possess the virtues dear to
the noble ones, unbroken... leading to concentration.’ It is in
such a way that you should train yourselves.”

“Venerable sir, as to these four factors of stream-entry taught by
the Blessed One, these things exist in us, and we live in
conformity with those things. For, venerable sir, we possess
confirmed confidence in the Buddha, the the Dhamma, and the
Sangha. We possess the virtues dear to the noble ones,
unbroken... leading to concentration.”

“It is a gain for you, Dhammadinna! It is well gained by you,
Dhammadinna! You have declared the fruit of stream-entry.”
~ S 55.53, (Bhikkhu Bodhi trans.)


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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Prasadachitta » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:10 pm

bodom wrote:
gabrielbranbury wrote:Dhammadina


I was just reading this sutta today

On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at
Baranasi in the Deer Park at Isipatana. Then the lay follower
Dhammadinna, together with five hundred lay followers,
approached the Blessed One, paid homage to him, and sat down
to one side. Sitting to one side, the lay follower Dhammadinna
then said to the Blessed One: “Let the Blessed One, venerable
sir, exhort us and instruct us in a way that may lead to our
welfare and happiness for a long time.”

"Therefore, Dhammadinna, you should train yourselves thus:
‘From time to time we will enter and dwell upon those
discourses spoken by the Tathagata that are deep, deep in
meaning, supramundane, dealing with emptiness.’ It is in such a
way that you should train yourselves.”

“Venerable sir, it is not easy for us – dwelling in a home
crowded with children, enjoying Kasian sandalwood, wearing
garlands, scents, and cosmetics, receiving gold and silver – from
time to time to enter and dwell upon those discourses spoken by
the Tathagata that are deep, deep in meaning, supramundane,
dealing with emptiness. As we are established in the five training
rules, let the Blessed One teach us the Dhamma further.”
“Therefore, Dhammadinna, you should train yourselves thus:
‘We will possess confirmed confidence in the Buddha... in the
Dhamma... in the Sangha.... We will possess the virtues dear to
the noble ones, unbroken... leading to concentration.’ It is in
such a way that you should train yourselves.”

“Venerable sir, as to these four factors of stream-entry taught by
the Blessed One, these things exist in us, and we live in
conformity with those things. For, venerable sir, we possess
confirmed confidence in the Buddha, the the Dhamma, and the
Sangha. We possess the virtues dear to the noble ones,
unbroken... leading to concentration.”

“It is a gain for you, Dhammadinna! It is well gained by you,
Dhammadinna! You have declared the fruit of stream-entry.”
~ S 55.53, (Bhikkhu Bodhi trans.)


:anjali:


This must be before she went forth and became fully awakened. Obviously she was a powerful influence within her community.

Thanks Bodom.

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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby legolas » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:13 pm

Wind wrote:That's easy. Ananda. His hard work gave us the Suttas. :smile:


Being an ardent sutta enthusiast, I agree. The depth of Ananda's gift to the world is mind blowing. He also gets my vote because he comes across as so human, a link between the highest and the rest of the masses. I suppose this is due to Ananda not becoming an arhant for so long yet still sustaining a mind of love, the tears at the Buddha's death are also a reminder to me that you can still be well on the path and still be overwhelmed at times.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby nobody12345 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:20 am

I like all the disciples of the Buddha.
Each disciple has unique quality that inspires me and moves me.
However, I believe that I owe the greatest debt to Ananda.
Without him, many of the great discourse of our kind teacher would have been lost forever.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Individual » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:23 am

Gautama
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:06 am

Maha-kassapa- because he is said to be in a cave somewhere and his bones (dhathu) is going to assemble with those of the next Buddha for the final rapturous sermon!
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby pt1 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:18 am

Sariputta - for transmitting the abhidhamma
Upali - for transmitting the vinaya
Anuruddha - for being there for the monks and devas at time of the Buddha's demise, for urging Ananda to attain arahatship so he could attend the first council and actually recite all the suttas, and for being in charge of transmitting the anguttara.

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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby cooran » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:44 am

Well said pt1! :twothumbsup:
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby adeh » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:37 pm

Ananda
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby vesuyul » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:47 pm

venerable Sariputta for his wisdom....he was chief disciple. He also had powerful psychic powers born of his cultivation.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby SamKR » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:33 pm

Sariputta
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Kusala » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:20 am

convivium wrote:Who is your favorite disciple of the Buddha'?


I would have to say Angulimala. A mass murderer who turned his life around upon hearing the Dhamma.

My favorite part of the Angulimala Sutta:

Then the robber Angulimala spoke this verse to the Blessed One:

'While walking the recluse says "I have stopped,"
when I have stopped, he says I have not stopped.
Recluse, explain this to me,
how have you stopped and I have not stopped.'

'Angulimala I have stopped for good,
I have given up harming living beings.
You are not restrained towards living beings,
therefore I have stopped and you have not stopped.'

Then and there the robber threw away his weapons
into the depths of the forest;
He fell at the feet of the Blessed One
and begged for the going forth.

The Blessed One, the sage
with compassion, for the whole world,
Gave him the going forth saying: 'Come O! bhikkhu!'
and that was his going forth.
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Homage to the Buddha
Thus indeed, is that Blessed One: He is the Holy One, fully enlightened, endowed with clear vision and virtuous conduct, sublime, the Knower of the worlds, the incomparable leader of men to be tamed, the teacher of gods and men, enlightened and blessed.

Homage to the Teachings
The Dhamma of the Blessed One is perfectly expounded; to be seen here and now; not delayed in
time; inviting one to come and see; onward leading (to Nibbana); to be known by the wise, each for himself.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Wizard in the Forest » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:42 am

I forgot to add Bhaddha, I like her too.
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Re: Who is your favorite great disciple?

Postby Sylvester » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:42 pm

Citta Gahapati (treasurer of Macchikasanda) in this dispensation, and Ghatikara (the potter) in the Buddha Kassapa's dispensation. One cannot ask for better paragons of the laity.
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