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Women can be Buddha

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:38 pm

As I understand it, both women and men can become enlightened. But it is a male that becomes a sammasambuddha. So the OP is simply incorrect.

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby DhammaDan » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:04 am

I am curious as to why some members believe women cannot become Sammasambuddhas.
Is it because they're UNABLE?
Or because it's just not (yet?) said to happen?

I'm not really favoring either way. I just want to know where the support for the negative view comes from.

And what of Paccekabuddhas?...

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:24 am

Hi DhammaDan,

People say it because it's what the Buddha is quoted as saying in MN115
http://www.mahindarama.com/e-tipitaka/M ... mn-115.htm

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby pink_trike » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:43 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: Women can be Buddha

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:16 am

i took some online test that said i'll be reborn as a woman in favorable circumstances in my next life... maybe i should start complaining about all this now :thinking: :tongue:
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Women cannot be Buddha etc.

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A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Women cannot be Buddha etc.

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Re: Women can be Buddha

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby jcsuperstar » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:04 am

in what language? the mahayana canon isnt even completly into english yet....

also even in the lotus sutra the dragon girl turns into a man, so she can be a buddha but as a man...
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby Fede » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:43 am

Who knows?
Who cares?
Why care?

Does it affect your practice now?

probably not.

If you're a man in this life, why worry?

if you're a woman in this life, why worry?

Just practice.

The rest will unfold as it unfolds.
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Women can be Buddha

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Re: Women can be Buddha

Postby jcsuperstar » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:24 pm

there is good reason to doubt some sutras, in fact any sutra that mentions it being wrten down and copied would be a fraud as the buddha lived in an oral culture so the process being talked about would come from a later time. also some of the mahayana sutras mention debates going on within the sangha that happened hindreds of years after the buddha, so again a good indicator that the sutra is a fraud. if i found a sutra that said "at that time the buddha had just got back from 7-11 and had blue lips from the slushie he had just eaten" i should know it can't really have come from the time of the buddha right? same with these sutras that mention things that are also historically inacurate.
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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat


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