Why not ordain?

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:14 am

And crawling on the planets face,some insects called the human race.
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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Maitri » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:11 pm

I am not ordaining as I am married. However, I have spoken openly with my spouse the possibility of ordaining if he passes away before I. Hopefully that is many years in the future. :heart:
"Upon a heap of rubbish in the road-side ditch blooms a lotus, fragrant and pleasing.
Even so, on the rubbish heap of blinded mortals the disciple of the Supremely Enlightened One shines resplendent in wisdom." Dhammapada: Pupphavagga


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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Viscid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:36 am

Can't ordain because that would require me to make believe that the Buddha was the grandest guy ever.
"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Guy » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:23 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Viscid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:17 am

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Guy » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:39 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Viscid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:52 am

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Guy » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:58 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Viscid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:14 am

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Ben » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:17 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Guy » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:47 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby cooran » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:10 am

Hello all,

I think there could be a misunderstanding about the word ‘’worship’’.

‘Worship’ in the Buddhist world simply means to ‘pay respect’ by bowing.

Lay people and Ordained people bow to the Buddha. Lay people bow to those who have Ordained.

It doesn’t mean the one bowing regards the object of the bowing as a God.

It is simply paying respect to those worthy of respect. With monks, I am not judging who is worthy or not – I simply bow to the yellow robe as symbolising the Ariya Sangha.

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Chris
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---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Viscid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:46 pm

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby Alex123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:00 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Why not ordain?

Postby EmptyShadow » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:06 am

:focus:

I guess i 'm not ordained for several reasons, and the main is that over the years when i was younger i developed something like sociophobia.I feel unease when i'm around ppl i dont know, and having to talk with strangers is usualy painful for me, i dont feel like sharing my views or talking about random staff at all, and usualy i have regrets after i say something like "why i said this or instead of that or why i acted like this instead otherwise.."(only in real life tho, no problems behind a computer :tongue: ).And since the life of a bhikkhu is more or less involved with social contacts i would feel realy uncomfortable.

As a lay person i have hopes and aspirations that i can achieve progress in meditation on my own and attain stream-entry althow sometimes it seems impossible to me, with my lack of persistency and attachment to sensual pleasures.
Anyway i think that the ordained life is most supportive for the realisation of the dhamma and i would encourage anyone who have seriouse thoughts about it.

I remember in some of the posts on E-sangha forum that some of the moderators have related a story about asking an elder bhikkhu how he can describe his expirience in the monkhood.And the bhikkhu's answer was something like this: At first it was alot of pain - pain in the knees, pain in the head, pain in the back.. but after that there was a lot of happiness and peace.

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