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Interbeing ?

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby PeterB » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:11 pm

So it is is a development not found in the Buddhas teachings ?

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby adeh » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:16 pm

I think it is a development based on the Buddha's teaching...I've only read a little of Nagarjuna, but I was quite surprised to read constant references to the Suttas in his writtings....and I'm sorry, but when it come to giving a Mahayana interpretation.....well I just don't know enough about the Mahayana view of things...
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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby kirk5a » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:30 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby adeh » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:43 pm

I'm sorry but I didn't say that...I said that I think it was a later development based on those earlier teachings...and that's all I'm saying on the matter.....chou
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Re: Interbeing ?

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby PeterB » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:53 pm

So Meindzi what of " emptiness is form " expressed in terms of Classical Theravada. If it were simply a matter of extrapolation surely that should pose no problem ?

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Re: Interbeing ?

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby PeterB » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:40 pm

Thanks....if we follow this Ariadnes Thread back aways we come to Interbeing...which no doubt for some Mahayanist practitioners is redolent with all sorts of positives . But from a Theravadin view it is difficult to see the term free from " Inherent Being "....as i said earlier it seems to substitute a collective atta for an individual one...Anatta becomes Superatta...
I remember a thread on ZFI where it became clear that Superatta and Collective Unconscious and Buddha Nature had all been rolled up into a big fuzzy ball which was in complete contradiction to the teaching of Anatta as I understood it...

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby Nibbida » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:30 pm

I never understood interbeing to imply that there is a super-atta. The parts are empty of inherent existence, and if there is some "whole" that's empty too. That seems consistent with the Suñña Sutta.

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby acinteyyo » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:04 pm

Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby kirk5a » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:11 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby cooran » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:11 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby kirk5a » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:49 am

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby PeterB » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:07 am

Taking a view is not attending...taking a view is taking a view.

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby lojong1 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:50 am

custard

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Re: Interbeing ?

Postby PeterB » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:02 am

How droll.

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