The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby Nyana » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:16 am

alan wrote:I'll rely on your opinion. Do you think it is real, and worth reading? If so, I'll give it another try.

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. It's been a while since I read it, but I didn't get any sense that it was fictitious or contrary to Ven. Ñāṇananda's known writings. That said, I don't know anything about Ven. Yogānanda. According to Adeh's post above, this interview has been included in the published book The Mind Stilled. So if it's a ruse it's a pretty well thought out and elaborate one.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby alan » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:53 am

"The mind stilled" seems to be a collection of essays similar to his Nibbana lectures. I have found no reference to this interview.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby cooran » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:20 am

Hello alan,

Yes, it's there. It is an appendix beginning on Page 679. ''The Heretic Sage'' - A Dhamma-Interview with Ven. Bhikkhu K. Nanananda by Ven. Bhikkhu Yogananda. Potgulgal Hermitage, Devalagama, Sri Lanka. 2009. ... there are Four Parts.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby Prasadachitta » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:46 pm

mikenz66 wrote:Yes, but in my reading of his texts he also very clear that it would be a mistake to see it all as illusion.

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Hi Mike,

I think it depends on what you mean by illusion. My dictionary says...

illusion |iˈloō zh ən|
noun
a false idea or belief : he had no illusions about the trouble she was in.
• a deceptive appearance or impression : the illusion of family togetherness | the tension between illusion and reality.
• a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses : Zollner's illusion makes parallel lines seem to diverge by placing them on a zigzag-striped background.


Which does seem to me what Bhante Nanananda is saying. In the sense that our perception provides us with a view of the world which is a "deceptive appearance or impression" or "a thing that is likely to be wrongly perceived".

However I would use the adjective "illusory" rather than the noun "illusion" so that we do not negate the process of wrongly perceiving and being deceived.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby Prasadachitta » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:54 pm

Ñāṇa wrote:
alan wrote:I'll rely on your opinion. Do you think it is real, and worth reading? If so, I'll give it another try.

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. It's been a while since I read it, but I didn't get any sense that it was fictitious or contrary to Ven. Ñāṇananda's known writings. That said, I don't know anything about Ven. Yogānanda. According to Adeh's post above, this interview has been included in the published book The Mind Stilled. So if it's a ruse it's a pretty well thought out and elaborate one.

All the best,

Geoff


The interview is included at the back of "Nibbana The Mind Stilled" which is a bound publication of the Nibanna Sermons. I have read at least a few chapters in the book and so far it seems just the same as the material I read online. Its worth reading a second time and I like having a book so I can put some space between me and my laptop.


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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby adeh » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:53 pm

A wonderful book....

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Postby Dhammabodhi » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:53 am

Thanks for the meaning, Mike.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:18 am

Greetings,

The Heretic Sage has now been published in PDF format here.

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Re: The Heretic Sage- Interview with Bhante Ñāṇananda

Postby rohana » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:39 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

The Heretic Sage has now been published in PDF format here.

Metta,
Retro. :)


Excellent!
"Delighting in existence, O monks, are gods and men; they are attached to existence, they revel in existence. When the Dhamma for the cessation of existence is being preached to them, their minds do not leap towards it, do not get pleased with it, do not get settled in it, do not find confidence in it. That is how, monks, some lag behind."
- It. p 43


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