Summary: Two bhikkhus questioning one another on the Abhidhamma would illuminate the Gosinga Grove.“Idhāvuso Sāriputta, dve bhikkhū abhidhammakathaṃ kathenti, te aññamaññaṃ pañhaṃ pucchanti, aññamaññassa pañhaṃ puṭṭhā vissajjenti, no ca saṃsādenti, dhammī ca nesaṃ kathā pavattinī hoti. Evarūpena kho, āvuso Sāriputta, bhikkhunā gosiṅgasālavanaṃ sobheyyā”ti.
Of course, Abhidhamma is mentioned many times in the Sutta Piṭaka, e.g. in the Mahāgosinga Sutta of the Majjhimanikāya.
Some people just like controversy. It is better to steer clear of it
and get on with one's own study and practice.
Adrien wrote:but that the story of how the abhidhamma was taught is to be found only in commentarial texts.
Adrien wrote:Actually he didn't sayed that he could cure aids, but that he knew how to heal himself from aids if he happens to get it (which is still a little strange).
However, this is not the subject here. Being wrong/foolish at one time doesn't mean being wrong/foolish all the time. And there is no need to value Bhante Vimalaramsi's credibility here, since he is only talking about things we can easily verify.
So if you disagree whith what he says in this video (which I assume you do), please offer us some counter arguments. Please consider the words, not the speaker, and explain why you disagree whith him. I would be interested in your answer if you had the time and motivation to do it. And I'm not saying this in a challenging way, I would be truely interested in what you have to say
retrofuturist wrote:Adrien wrote:but that the story of how the abhidhamma was taught is to be found only in commentarial texts.
... and that the story does not accord with the Buddha's own words that he did not teach with a closed fist (i.e. no secretive teachings given only to exclusive groups)
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,mikenz66 wrote:That Ven Vimalaramsi was thoroughly disillusioned by his experiences in Burma is actually quite relevant because his talks (and I've listened to over 100 of them, since they are mostly based on reading Majjhima Nikaya suttas and commenting on them) are clearly shaped by that.
Well, we have had a thread on this guy earlier on. He is no more attractive now than he was then. I'll look elsewhere for my Dhamma teachings.retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
An interesting video from venerable Vimalaramsi on..
How the Visuddhi Magga and the Abhidhamma has influenced the Buddha's Teachings
It goes some way to explaining why some people may legitimately prefer a suttanta method of meditation over that of one based upon post-Buddha teachings. Frankly, I find it refreshing to see a monk have the courage to defend the primacy of the Buddha's teaching, against the traditional backdrop of accumulated post-Buddha perspectives.
tiltbillings wrote:Well, we have had a thread on this guy earlier on. He no more attractive now than he was then. I'll look elsewhere for my Dhamma teraching.
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