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Name That Sutta?

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Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:03 am

Someone was telling me about a sutta, in which the Buddha predicted that someday people would learn how to regenerate their organs and live at least 1000 years, which would result in the death of Buddhism. He couldn't remember the name of the sutta. Does it sound familiar to anyone?
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:07 am

Greetings,

I predict your certain someone is tad confused about a particular sutta and possibly being a little imaginative.

There are suttas that explain that in deva and brahma realms where lifetimes are long and things are pretty sweet, it is easier to believe that one is eternal and that dukkha can be avoided... and therefore have diminished incentive to practice the Dhamma.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Euclid » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:44 am

The 'thousand years' and 'death of buddhism' sounds like the sutta where the Buddha predicts the Dhamma will last 1000 years, but only 500 if women are admitted into the Sangha (I paraphrase)

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:57 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:58 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby perkele » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:03 pm

Here is a German translation of it: http://www.palikanon.com/angutt/a08_051-060.html
It is called "Gotami Sutta" here, and listed as Anguttara Nikaya 8.51.
AN 8.53 here is called Saṃkhitta Sutta and is about instruction by the Buddha to the newly ordained nun Gotami.

On accesstoinsight.org, however, AN 8.53 is called "Gotami Sutta", and AN 8.51-52 is missing.
I think I have never found it in English.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby cooran » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:45 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:59 pm

As Cooran's link reminds me, it would be prudent to check the Vinaya, not just the Suttas, for discussion of that sort of issue.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:16 pm

Some1, you are a rock star! Thanks!
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:17 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Name That Sutta?

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:18 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.


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