Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

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Postby adosa » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:51 pm

"To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas" - Dhammapada 183

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Ben » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:15 am

OK, I think its time we returned to topic.
Thanks for your cooperation.

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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby octathlon » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:19 am

I will add my name to the list of those who are disturbed by posts belittling other human beings, in general, and also in particular the case mentioned of insulting people for having poor English skills. Anyone who thinks a person can so easily improve their English just like that or else should not participate here is ... entitled to that opinion, but refraining from snarky comments and personal insults in general would IMO improve the atmosphere of Dhamma Wheel and be greatly appreciated by me and at least a few others.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby christopher::: » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:31 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:48 am

Greetings,

There's been some good points raised and I'd like to pick them up in the established context of helping you improve your Dhamma Wheel experience.

From my point of view, the Terms Of Service represent the guidelines, or minimal standards for behaviour within the community. It's great if people want to go beyond those standards personally, but I don't think we can enforce our personal elevated standards upon others.

To that end...

1. If you think the Terms Of Service can be improved to better explain and make reference to the types of behaviour that you deem improper, please put forward your suggestions.

2. If you think that moderators need to enforce the Terms Of Service more rigorously with regards to a particular TOS component, again, please raise it. It will help draw our attention to it.

Perhaps someone, Christopher::: maybe, might like to start a new topic on this in the Suggestion Box? I'm just wary of this particular topic becoming a mish-mash of interconnected ideas that get lost along the way.

And again, if someone says something inappropriate in the forum itself, please try to avoid such discussion about standards within the actual topic, as that constitutes meta-discussion and is notorious for sending topics off-topic. There is the report button, there is the suggestion box... there is a proper channel for all these things.

Thanks.

Metta,
Retro. :)
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Postby christopher::: » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:22 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:33 am

I never read TOS statements. I believe if people post politely, like adults and try to stay mostly on topic, they will never have any problems. I've been on many forums and ran a few. Forums can be choked to death by too much moderation. Forums can also be moderated too weakly and go to hell with bickering overrunning it. The mods need to already have good judgment in them. A TOS will not do that. People started TOS statements to safeguard against the day trolls with bruised egos get lawyers involved. Gladly, that hasn't happened yet.
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One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby pilgrim » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:00 am

I just want to point out that despite all the jibes thrown at Hanzze, he has remained remarkably good-natured . Frankly I'd feel more comfortable with his company than with those who have all the Theravada-theory but cannot resist taking pot-shots at a guy with poor language skills and who is trying to join the party. :focus:

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Dan74 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:54 am

Like many here, I feel that overall this forum is remarkably well run.

That said it may be that the blogger has legitimate grievances (I don't have the time to go through so many posts at the moment). We all have our pet peeves and weaknesses and sometimes mods may make a snarky comment or exercise poor judgment. This is to be expected and it's commendable if the mods here are serious about trying to improve their skills and make the forum even better.

Of course what makes a forum really work is the commitment of the members continually bringing substance, sincerity and good will to the exchanges here. The reason I keep coming is because there is a critical number of such members here and a real drive to explore the Dhamma.

As for Hanzze, I don't have a problem with his posts. Sometimes I don't understand him and sometimes what he says does make good sense. If people feel like taking nasty pot-shots at him or any other member, I hope the mods make it clear that such behaviour is not welcome. It makes for a much more wholesome atmosphere on the forum.
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby alan » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:11 am

If anyone can tell me how to respond to Hannze without mocking him, I'd like to hear it.
Once, twice, OK. Three times, 6 times? How about every time? Let's face it--if every post is laughably dumb then the only response is to treat it like comic relief. Sorry if this offends those with tender senses, but Hannze has made no effort to clarify his thoughts, good-natured though they may be. Why should I take them seriously?

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Dan74 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:13 am

How about Ven Appicato's post above?

Just pass by, why comment if you don't have anything constructive to say?
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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Ben » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:54 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:56 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Viscid » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:24 am

You've got an incredible range of people here including religious screwballs, schizophrenic nutjobs, rich scumbags, proud monks, respectable monks, humble monks, fakers, feminists, flakes and a few who are truly honest and compassionate. It's a bit of a mess which is to be expected from an online Internet forum, and I think the mods have done pretty good job managing it all. I've tried pushing boundaries here and there, and have found the mods actions to be predictable and fair enough.

Tilt is cranky, old and stubborn though, and I think you should ban him forever.
"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience!

Postby Viscid » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:26 am

Also, Hanzze is the most lovable person on this forum and you Hanzze-bashers have got no heart.
:heart: :heart: Hanzze :heart: :heart:
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