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Challenges Facing Asian Buddhism in the Modern World

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Challenges Facing Asian Buddhism in the Modern World

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Postby phil » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:36 am

Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Postby phil » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:36 am

Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Postby christopher::: » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:12 am

True, American women were not the first to get the right to vote, but it was the way they responded to their new freedom that I was referring to...



Clearly though, the expansion of individual rights and these joyful celebrations of hedonism have been happening all over, not just in America. In Europe, in the late 1800s, there were the , creative artists and poets living for the moment, engaging in pleasure seeking...

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Postby nathan » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:53 am

Everywhere they go corporations replace everything. It takes a while to realize that, along with every other social structure, your own life is now also meaningless as well. No incompatibility with Dhamma in that.
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Re: Challenges Facing Asian Buddhism in the Modern World

Postby pink_trike » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:58 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Re: Challenges Facing Asian Buddhism in the Modern World

Postby christopher::: » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:10 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Challenges Facing Asian Buddhism in the Modern World

Postby zavk » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:37 am

Hi all,

On the question of the modern concept of individualism--there's no straightforward way to account for it but it really gained momentum in the 18th century, which saw the emergence of liberalism and the political philosophy of libertarianism, and which crystallised in events such as the American War of Independence and the French Revolution. So to an extent, it can be said that this supposed 'malady' of individualism is the price we pay for 'liberty' (as it has been conceived in the West).

In any case, philosophers, social commentators, and cultural critics of the 20th century have noted a marked 'subjective turn' in culture and society (they are referring to Western societies in most instances but in the present age of globalisation this can be extended to many non-Western contexts). As I understand it, there is something promising about this, for this process of 'subjectivization' isn't the same as 'individualism'. The growing interest in 'spirituality over religion' can be seen as a manifestation of this subjectivization process--indeed, the growing interest in the West in contemplative traditions like Buddhism can be seen as a manifestation of this 'subjective turn'. But the challenge, of course, is how this 'inward turn' might reach its fullest potential, for I do believe that it can undercut atomistic individualism.

Best wishes,
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Postby christopher::: » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:32 am

Modern trends of individualism and democracy do indeed have deep roots, Rui, yes. They lead back to Greece and Rome, probably also to Moses, to the teachings of Jesus (with his emphasis on individuals all being equal in the eyes of God). The men who drew up the founding documents of the U.S. were also inspired by a number of American Indian tribes, especially the Confederacy of the Iroquois Indians.



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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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