The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

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The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

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Postby retrofuturist » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:17 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby cooran » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:20 am

Hello Robert,

Could you please give a link to the post in question so that we can all see the context?

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Postby tiltbillings » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:24 am

Sadly, very few actual commentaries are available in English, which makes for assessing them difficult for the non-Pali reader. I am too damned tired and sick at the moment to do any research, but a general comment about the commentaries is worthwhile. That differing opionion are expressed would simply be the nature of commentaries and sub-commentaries, etc., given that they are written by people of various levels of understanding over over long periods.

I certainly would not dismiss commemntaries, but they may not be the final word on a subject. They are important.

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Postby BlackBird » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:27 am

I think that's a valid statement, why regard it as putdown? I'd probably be harsher than that if caught off guard. Don't forget the generous qualifier: 'Thereforewhile there commentaries are also important, they aren't of the same caliber as the Tipiṭaka.'
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Postby retrofuturist » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:30 am

Greetings,

There's potential for this one to go off-topic very quickly, so please bear in mind the guidelines to this sub-forum.

If you don't know what they are, please review them before posting... viewtopic.php?f=19&t=373

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby BlackBird » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:34 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Can anyone who agrees with the comments made by the member quoted in the opening post give any examples of these failings in the Commentaries?

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Postby tiltbillings » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:11 am

How about the monks that killed themselves after being given the practice of the repulsiveness of the body by the Buddha. After giving that subject for meditation, the Buddha goes on retreat for a time, comes back to find sangha a bit thinned out. Now, the commentary gives an unbelievably silly story about that and Ven Bodhi to his credit does not seem to buy it. SN V 320-22 CDB 1773-4.


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