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Mixing methods and Yoga asana

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Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby SamKR » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:02 am

Hi,

In Goenkaji's method students are not allowed to mix techniques. But does yoga (Asana and Pranayama only) count as mixing technique? I guess it's not as they are physical aspect of yoga.

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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:59 am

Hi.I can't really answer in regards to the Goenka style of meditation,but when I first took up meditation(Mahasi) I was asked not to combine any other type of meditation with my practise.This included things as diverse as Tai chi to visualization meditation.The reason given for this,and this is something that I also ask of any of my studends is that for many it is the first time that they have practised this form of meditation and as many come for short retreats(10 days)we asked that they put off practising other things so that they may truly get to see some benefit out of their stay.We can not and I personnally do not tell people to drop all other forms of meditation after they leave the retreat.The same as we do not expect them to obseve noble silence or the 8 precepts after they leave.In fact where I studied meditation on the day that the students left,before going they would meet with the teacher for 1 last time and take 5 precepts. :meditate:
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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby Viscid » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:23 pm


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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby Parth » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:26 pm

I dont think goenkaji is against practising Yoga / Pranayam as an exercise all that he says is do not mix that with Vipassana. His primary concern is with keeping vipassana in its pristine beauty, earlier vipassana got lost in India probably because people mixed something else with Vipassana due to which the technique became impure and therefore lost its efficacy for the practioner.

Actually the problem is that vipassana is very very simple but, we are not, and that is the complication. Further you mix anything with a simple thing and it becomes complicated. It is like 'simple water' you mix anything with it and it does not remain 'simple water' any longer.

A point to ponder here is that if one does pranayam (an exercize of breath) regularly will it not interfere with anapana (simple observation of breath as it is)

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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:17 pm

Maybe there are difference of view, in the two practice- one is to escape samsara, the other is to be unified with brahma, if I am not mistaken.

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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby alan » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:06 am

Thanks for the video Viscid. Yoga is great!
I was once "busted" on a Goenka retreat for stretching my legs. No one there had any idea about what Yoga is or is not--they were just mindless rule followers.

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Postby Ben » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:11 am

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Re: Mixing methods and Yoga asana

Postby Parth » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:27 pm

Dear Ben,

Havent done a long course myself, but I second your views.

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