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A Critique of Brahmavamso’s “The Jhanas”

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Postby nathan » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:29 am

There are six transcripts of Dhamma Talks here which are discourses about Theravada Abhidhamma including many details of how this Venerable understands vipassana and jhana to be functioning together in various ways in various aspects of meditation in practice. There may be a number of details mentioned that might prove useful for those who are making very detailed comparisons of specific particulars.

Abhidhamma with Ven. Dhammadipa
http://www.phathue.com/buddhism/dharma- ... hammadipa/
But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}

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Postby Dmytro » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:42 am

Hi Morning Mist and Sylvester,

This sounds more and more like a dialogue of deaf people.
You write to me the things I well know, and ignore what I write.

Futhermore, there seems to be a very scarce common ground - suttas like MN 138 (on attachment to jhanas), MN 78 (on kāmasaññā) and others, which contradict Brahmavamso's statements, are either ignored or misrepresented.

Now that I have understood your position and types of reasoning, I don't see any point in further discussion in this thread with you.

I thank you and all the participants of this thread for illuminating posts.

I hope that this "Early Buddhism" thing will evolve to accurate and non-biased definition of terms, directly based on the most reliable texts possible, and this will help to make the meditative practice truly enlightening.

Best wishes, Dmytro


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