Peter wrote:In my opinion it is important to either be familiar with them yourself or to have a teacher who is familiar with them. The suttas are simply too vague in too many places to rely on them alone. Vagueness leave plenty of room for an unawakened practitioner to insert his own deluded interpretations. Never forget that the reason we suffer is because of delusion; the reason the Buddha taught is because he was free from delusion. We need to rely on the teachings of others if we are to get free from this maze.
People who believe all they need to awaken is read some suttas are, in my opinion, allowing themselves to be lead by their pride. Of course, such a person will read this statement and their pride will not let them believe it.
clw_uk wrote:Can ones practice be frutiful (and lead to nibbana) without referring to the commentaries?
Can you tell us about some of them?
how you know they were Noble?
how you know they were never aware of the explanations in the Commentaries?
Ben wrote:Nyaniponika Thera in 'Abhidhamma Studies' also asserts that while the core of the Abhidhamma Mantikas were probably composed by the Buddha, it was Sariputta and Sariputta's students who fleshed it out.
Ben wrote:The Commentarial tradition began with the Buddha and his senior disciples as a method to explain the Dhamma to those who were less realised or did not have the paramitas to penetrate the Dhamma unassisted.
A fruitful practice and nibbana, without the commentaries?
Whose commentaries? Theravadin? Sarvastivadin? Or any number of other schools? Why priviledge one sret of commentaries over another?
Any school's commentary
I do not know if you have read any actual commentaries,so here is a commentaries of the Satipatthana Sutta. Take some time; read through it carefully.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... wayof.html
Commentaries may not be the final word, but they are important word.
retrofuturist wrote:My perspective is much like that of Tilt, "Commentaries may not be the final word, but they are important word."
Retrofuturist said: This leaves though the historical fact that it is only the Theravada tradition that possesses the Abhidhamma.
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