tiltbillings wrote:And having "blipped," I cannot take the explanation of it at all seriously.
Cool, I understand your stance.
In my experience, there are many different types of "blips". Some occur at jhana transitions, or from one nana to the next. The 4th nana being a common place to experience "blips". The one I refer to is universally (at least with the many many yogis I've communicated with) said to be followed by the profound changes which I already mentioned a bit about.
I'm curious about your "blips". Can i ask about them? Can you call your version of the "blip" up at anytime? Does it occur for you when you pass through very equanimous wide panoramic state? Is it followed by a number of seconds where the mind feels like it has not fully rebooted? If you observe say an image in the mind's eye and focus on the annica characteristic, paying careful attention to the exact moment the image vanishes, do you get the same "blip"? Do you also get the bliss wave afterwards? Did it only happen once and never again?
I recognise that using the term "blip" may confuse. It is more like a discontinuity of consciousness. Like you lose time for a brief moment and there is no memory of what occurs then, just the entrance or mostly the exit with the rebooting experience and a subtle bliss wave. Sometimes a slight head jerk may accompany it. There seems to be a physical tensing within the brain at maybe the pituitary gland spot at the entrance to the discontinuity and something physical in the same spot relaxes at the exit experience. When the anatta characteristic is observed in arising and pass away phenomena while in that state where equanimity of everything arising and passing away is the theme, there seems to be a tensing at the third eye spot behind the eyes within the brain. Maybe the pineal gland? When the dukkha characterisitc is the theme in that same state, the entrance is more like a pulling up sensation at the crown within the brain. There is a tensing of something physical and then the discontinuity and then rebooting then bliss wave. It happens whenever the mind is in that panoramic cool equanimous state, or if resolved for it to occur in a certain time frame, like in 10 seconds or a minute from now.
I am not being argumentative, tilt, Im just curious is all. I know you dislike my presence, but I think you may be talking about some other "blip". Of course I could be wrong.
So putting any arguments aside concerning labeling it as some sort of attainment (screw the label), has anyone here had this experience? If so, did it leave the head as though the top of the skull had opened up and out permanently then maybe later resulting in a sense that the mind was more spacious and less confined? Like there was a non-localised awareness now without a centrepoint? Is it easy to see the misread sensations misread as a supposed separate observing "self"?
Sincerely curious and not claiming anything anymore,
Edited to add: I now do not think Tilt is talking about the same "blip".
TILT : "Though what I described to the teacher was in the context of vipassana practice, the experience of the rise and fall of what I was experiencing, particularly in terms of the "falling" away of experience. It was when the final bit experience seemingly fell away, nothing arising, leaving me in a with a period of just "being there" -- no arising of anything through the sense doors, no thought, no anything, just "being there." END OF QUOTE. http://bit.ly/hwrP6t
This description here does not match the discontinuities I've described. An experience of just "being there" indicates there was no discontinuity of consciousness and it was an actual experience. And concerning that other thread that talks of "pitch blackness", there isn't any memory of even "pitch blackness". It is more a non-experience and the only experience is that of the entrance and exit. Calling it "pitch blackness" insinuates that it is an actual experience of "pitch blackness". This does not match what Ive described. I think we are talking about different "blips", one "blip" results in profound changes in perception, the mind's relationship to phenomena, the "self" being seen through, a drop in suffering levels and other significant stuff and another so called "blip" seemingly doesn't. You'd know the "blip" Im talking of due to the permanent shift in perception that results. Since Tilt has asked for another thread to be started to talk about such things, Ive added this opinion to this post and if anyone wants to cross examen, start another thread.