Eat your way to happiness!

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Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:19 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:25 am

Basic stuff. Should be taught in grade school.
Except...saturated fats. They are good for you.

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:39 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:59 am

Coconut oil. Try it. It is good for you. I promise!

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:12 am

Thanks alan. I love coconut and my first thought is - well if its like coconut milk or coconut cream, i'll just put it on as more weight. I've given dairy the flick for the same reason. Replaced cow's milk with soy or rice milk (except in coffee), and occassionally a little cheese. Anyway, I look forward to findng out more about coconut oil.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Kim OHara » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:18 am

Without even worrying about the details of the recommended diet, I think you've got to ask the chicken-and-egg questions.
People who care about themselves and respect the need to look after themselves are, surely, far more likely to have a healthy diet to begin with than people with low self-esteem.
Likewise, smart, hard-working people are financially better able to look after themselves and are more likely to come across good dietary advice and good role models than (let's be blunt) dumb, lazy people.
So ... which factors are causes and which are effects? Or is it just one big snarl of problems for some people, spiralling down into poverty, illness and depression and (legal and illegal) drug abuse?
If you look at the people turning up at Casualty at your local hospital for non-accident reasons, you would certainly be inclined to come to that conclusion.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:27 am

I'm curious as to the effects of diet on mental health. I think a study that looked at that would be really interesting. And if I were a betting man I would be inclined to go with the notion that mental health and diet are co-dependent, they condition the other. And having worked in major public hospitals in Melbourne I can attest that those attending Casualty for non-trauma related conditions are predominantly the result of socio-economic and lifestyle factors.

I'm also interested, as a practitioner, in the idea of 'happiness' being equated with how one feels, rather than in the Buddhist sense of happiness (supramundane) coming from the eradication of our defilements and the realization of nibbana where (vedanas: sensations) and emotions: sankharas are absent. And as a practitioner, I guess I am also interested in where mundane happiness (being equated here as physical and mental wellbeing) fits with other practitioners in their daily lives. How important it is to them and what they do.
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Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Fede » Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:40 am

Well, since giving up 2/4-leg meat (I still eat fish) I've noticed health benefits.

I have an affliction (I hirple) and it's caused by damage to my sciatic nerve, which is non-functional in parts, down my left leg.
The result has been that I have been prone to getting debilitating cramp attacks at night - I mean, really intense, painful attacks that used to keep me awake for half the night.

I had to have a prescription drug containing quinine, which did much to ease the symptoms, but I still got the attacks now and then.

Since cutting out meat - I haven't had an intense attack at all.
Occasionally, my foot's complained and cramped up, but it's passed relatively quickly, and the pain is infinitely more bearable.
I can also walk further, and my legs don't get so tired....

I've also lost some weight, and generally really feel far less....'clogged' than before.

Edited to add:

Mens sana corpore sano.

healthy Mind - healthy body.

The chinese, in TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) have always maintained an unbreakable connection [between Mind and body] in their medical practice. They absolutely refute any idea of separation, and have always taken it for granted that whatever goes on in *here* (taps head) always affects - and is always affected by - what goes on in *here* (taps body). Having studied TCM, I can vouch for this, and am in complete agreement.

Strange that it's only now that Dieticians, scientists and medical experts are coming up with all these novel and ground-breaking ideas, when in the Orient and East, it's been a de facto practice for millennia.....
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:04 am

I'm eating my way to happiness with a left over candy-cane from Christmas.

Mmmm... minty.

Metta,
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Fede » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:10 am

Christmas was, like.... 3 months ago!

Eeeew...don't tell me...you found a sticky bit under the sofa......??

I trust the dogs didn't find it first...... :mrgreen:
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby PeterB » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:49 am

In the movie Sleeper the character played by Woody Allen has been cryogenically frozen for a century.
When revived he announces that he is going to find his friends.
It is explained to him that all his friends will be dead.
"But" he wails, "they all ate brown rice and organic vegetables ! "

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:51 pm

Last edited by Jhana4 on Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:36 pm, edited 2 times in total.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:53 pm

I don't think the idea that eating well contributes to happiness is all that radical and already has a lot of basis in fact.

I think all of us of had the experience of eating poorly for a stretch of time, eating better and noticing the difference in our moods. A good diet can help us avoid many diseases that bring a lot of misery.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Su Dongpo » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:32 pm

I am eating well* and I am happy.

Chicken and egg? I avoid both. :smile:

Fresh fruit, fresh green veggies, fresh air, sunshine and moderate exercise.

You can't go so very wrong this way...

Best wishes,
Su Dongpo

*I have an ongoing addiction to Diet/Coke Zero, but other than that... :thinking:

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby chownah » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:37 pm

One diet does not fit all....each person will do best by finding out what foods and quantities are best for them.....I guess....maybe not....maybe we should ignore our experience and just mindlessly follow some diet that someone else says we should eat....
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:52 pm

100% percent true. Whole wheat bread is a health food for some people, but a trip to the hospital for someone with celiac disease. On the other hand, many things from medical research concerning nutrition and health apply to everyone.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Bodhisurfer » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:42 pm

I'd be very interested to see some 'proof' but I've long been a beleiver that diet plays a very important part in ones physical and mental health. Didnt the Buddha himself have to start eating properly again to regain the strength to pursue Nibbana :buddha1:
Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby PeterB » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:47 pm

No...he just had to start eating again. He had been on a prolonged fast.
What he actually ate was sweet rice...loaded with curds ! And jaggery sugar !
So neither vegan nor health food...And he described the strength coming back to his limbs.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Fede » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:53 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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