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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:01 am

Hi Jhana4.
Are you sure Weston Price foundation is funded by ranchers? I didn't know that.
References would be great. As far as I know they are a nonprofit.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:33 am

On the subject of saturated fat:
It's important to recognize the differences between fats. Mothers milk, for instance, is very high in saturated fat. I doubt anyone would argue against breast feeding.
There is good fat, and there is bad fat. French fries are bad, Coconuts are good. Walnuts and almonds are good. Twinkies and cupcakes are bad. You should eat good fats and avoid bad ones.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby ground » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:58 am

alan wrote:You should eat good fats and avoid bad ones.


Too bad.

But: Why can't all these scientists put it that simple?! :lol:

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:27 am

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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Kim OHara » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:41 am

alan wrote:On the subject of saturated fat:
It's important to recognize the differences between fats. Mothers milk, for instance, is very high in saturated fat. I doubt anyone would argue against breast feeding.

Good to recognise the difference between people, too. Babies' dietary needs are far different from adults'.
That makes that particular argument very weak, though it doesn't necessarily mean that your broader argument is wrong.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Jhana4 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:56 pm

alan wrote:Hi Jhana4.
Are you sure Weston Price foundation is funded by ranchers? I didn't know that.
References would be great. As far as I know they are a nonprofit.


They don't advertise it on their site, but since they are a nonprofit they are required by law to tell people who they are funded by if asked. I wrote them a letter asking them.

The actual Weston Price lived over 70 years ago. He was a researcher, a scientist, a medical doctor or even a nutritionist. He was a dentist who toured the 3rd world, noticed that people had better teeth and simpler diets.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Jhana4 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:01 pm

alan wrote:http://www.coconut-connections.com/weight_problems.htm I take coconut oil every day.


Businesses trying to sell an alternative food product are not reliable sources of health information in regards to those products.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:16 am

Perhaps. But I'd say only a fool would ignore this information. http://www.coconutoil.com/litalee.htm
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:30 am

Anyway gentlemen, let's get this thread back on topic!
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:02 am

Ok then, back to subject.
The link between diet and mental health has been proven so many times that I have wonder why it is even reported as "news".
I've been actively involved in the skillful integration of diet and exercise for many years. Happy to share with those willing to listen.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:16 am

Hi alan,
alan wrote:Ok then, back to subject.
The link between diet and mental health has been proven so many times that I have wonder why it is even reported as "news".
I've been actively involved in the skillful integration of diet and exercise for many years. Happy to share with those willing to listen.

Sure. People eat poorly as the result of poor mental health. That link of mental health conditioning diet has been reported on before and is not new news.

However, does changing your diet (and only changing your diet) improve mental health? If we were to remove all the othr variables such as exercise, sleep patterns, drug and alcohol consumption, stress, etc & etc and just looked at the role of diet, would we find a clear and decisive link that a better diet improves mental health?

While I am sure there are great anecdotes that support this proposition I don't think there has been a serious study into it yet.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:04 am

Oh God Yes it does!
Why would anyone think otherwise?
Sorry, Maybe it's because I've been so immersed in the healthy-living healthy-body healthy-mind word for so long that I'm amazed at those who haven't been practicing--it strikes as odd that anyone would deny the connection. There is a lot of disinformation out there: I see now that I am going against the grain. I don't want to turn this into a debate society--I'll just say I'm convinced that diet has an enormous influence on mental and physical health. As sure as the world is round.
And I'll be happy to assist anyone with an open mind who wants to learn.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:14 am

No doubt Alan, there are some fantastic health benefits from making lifestyle changes and they can all make you feel good which can increase mundane happiness. I don't think I (or anyone else) was denying the potential positive effects of diet on mental health. Perhaps what I am trying to get at is I think it would be good to quantify the actual benefit from dietary change. I think that knowledge would be very beneficial.
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Re: Eat your way to happiness!

Postby alan » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:33 am

Best way to quantify it is to try it. If anyone is listening, I'd suggest getting off soda as a vital first step.
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