2nd precept in a digital world / internet

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2nd precept in a digital world / internet

Postby metta_noob » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:35 pm

Pre-internet scenario 1
An artist sets up stall in Montmarte. He puts up his finished works/canvases on display hoping people would like them and buy them. Mr A comes along and takes a photo of the scene, with the finished works occupying a prominent portion of the photo. Mr A then goes to the photo lab and enlarges the photo, and displays the printed photo for sale.

Pre-internet scenario 2
Same as in Scenario 1. But this time Mr A crops the photo so that only the artist's finished work is left. Mr B also touches up parts of the artist's artwork and removes the artist's signature and puts in his own signature. He displays the the resulting photo for sale.

Internet scenario 3
Mr Photog takes a color photo of a beautiful landscape, watermarks it and uploads it to his website. Mr C comes across the photo, decides he likes it, right clicks and saves it to his hard disk for offline viewing.

Internet scenario 4
Same as scenario 3. Except Mr D not only saves it to his hard disk but removes Mr Photog's watermark and uploads it to Mr D's website.

Internet scenario 5
Same as scenario 3. Now Mr E goes one up on Mr D. Mr E uses his Photoshop skills and spends time to convert the color photo to a nicely toned "fine art" black and white. Of course, he also uses his Photoshop skills to remove the watermark and slaps on his own watermark before posting it to Mr E's website.

Who has broken the 2nd precept? Mr A, B, C, D or E?

PS: my understanding of the 2nd precept is quite simply not to take anything that is not given to you. I may be mistaken ;)

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Re: 2nd precept in a digital world / internet

Postby Fede » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:08 pm

I think the discussion is complex - have you seen this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7499&p=119194#p119194
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: 2nd precept in a digital world / internet

Postby chownah » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:35 pm

None of them. None of them took anything from anyone. The only precept I see broken is right speech if they put their name on an image to take credit for something they didn't create....you may say that they did create the actual thing with their name on it (file, picture, whatever form you see their name on) which is true but if the intent is to mislead people about the origins of the thing with their name on it then it is not right speech (even though no speech has been produced) in my opinion.
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intellectual property does not exist....it is a bogus idea created by big business to hamstring the masses and force them to buy the mass produced mass production items....
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Re: 2nd precept in a digital world / internet

Postby acinteyyo » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:17 pm

I second that
Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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