Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Parth » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:18 pm

Hi starter,

All that is fine to state but would tend to agree with Matheesha.

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:58 pm

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Kenshou » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:06 pm

So Parth, do you know anything about the goal of Buddhist practice? If so, in light of what you have said, how did you ever get it? And if you don't, why are you a Buddhist?

You don't have to answer these questions, it's rhetorical, but hopefully you see my point.

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Parth » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:11 pm

Dear Kenshou,

Point taken but, point remains u cant define it :smile:

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Kenshou » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:24 pm

The point may remain, but it remains badly thought out.

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Kori » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:51 am

I think that what parth meant is that Nibbana is simply indescribable even when one has attained it. You can describe in words how to get there, but describing in words the actual phenomena is futile. Therefore, "The elimination of passion, the elimination of aggression, the elimination of delusion" are words describing how one attains it, but not actual Nibbana itself.



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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:52 pm

C'mon Geoff, do you really think that I thought nibbana was a state? If so your assessment of my understanding is mistaken. We both know the unconditioned can't be defined, except by perhaps (and quite usefully so) by what conditioned states are absent - namely suffering! - and that is why I am a Buddhist.

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

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Re: Pitch-black emptiness and Mahasi Sayadaw technique

Postby Parth » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:27 pm

Dear Kenshou,

Actually Buddhism was propogated by everybody other than Buddha himself. He just taught Dhamma which is universal, a universal remidy for a universal suffering. Please give me just one quote from entire Tipitika where where Buddhism / 'bauddha' as a word is mentioned. You will not find even one mention. And as per Buddha's own words from aeons perhaps India has been a country of Buddha's / Pacceka buddha's and those words keep filtering down. You practise Vipassana and suddenly find that words of various mystics have a very differnt meaning.

I for one am just a follower of Vipassana , along with Buddha's / other wise people's words; wherever that takes me. Rest does not matter.

Your / others futile effort in trying to define Nibbana will and cannot take you even an inch closer to defining it literally / figuratively / any other 'ly'. The point I make is "the unconditioned can't be defined". Better to invest time in the practise and work on.

Metta

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