Dear forum,
I have a question for the Pali experts, such as Ajahn Dhammanando.
We usually translate the word samudaya as 'cause'.
However, I am under the impression it means 'origin' or 'complete arising'.
Thus, what did the Lord Buddha intend to say when he used the term 'dukkha samudaya' in the Second Noble Truth?
Was he referring to 'the cause' or more?
I think the word hetu means 'prior cause' thus samudaya appears more detailed than hetu.
Regards,
Element
What does samudaya mean?
Re: What does samudaya mean?
Hi Element
I'm not an expert but your impression seems correct.
aya - "to come"
ud - "up"
sam - "with"
samudaya - "what comes up with (dukkha)"¹
samudaya - rise, origin, coming into existence, the second ariya²
¹http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/bod ... three.html
²http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/pali/
I'm not an expert but your impression seems correct.
aya - "to come"
ud - "up"
sam - "with"
samudaya - "what comes up with (dukkha)"¹
samudaya - rise, origin, coming into existence, the second ariya²
¹http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/bod ... three.html
²http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/pali/
Last edited by thecap on Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: What does samudaya mean?
Maybe it's related to dependent origination?
"With the arising of this coming the arising of that."
"With the arising of this coming the arising of that."
- Peter
Be heedful and you will accomplish your goal.
Be heedful and you will accomplish your goal.
Re: What does samudaya mean?
Indeed.Peter wrote:Maybe it's related to dependent origination?
"With the arising of this coming the arising of that."
Re: What does samudaya mean?
Mmm...could be Peter.Peter wrote:Maybe it's related to dependent origination?
"With the arising of this coming the arising of that."