Pornography
Re: Pornography
I'm of the opinion it breaches Right Livelihood via trade in humans. It also negatively affects one's ability to practice brahmaviharas. It is an indulgence in sensual gratification without seeing the danger or the escape.
- "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.
"And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
Re: Pornography
How?daverupa wrote:...it breaches Right Livelihood via trade in humans....
How?daverupa wrote:It also negatively affects one's ability to practice brahmaviharas.
For everyone?daverupa wrote:It is an indulgence in sensual gratification without seeing the danger or the escape.
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Greetings AnonOfIbid,
Someone is going to say it, so I may as well try to get in first and do it politely...
Within a few minutes, you've just started topics on the following subjects...
- Cannabis
- Pharmaceutical Antidepressants
- Pornography
Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
Craving: tanha
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... tanha.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Metta,
Retro.
Someone is going to say it, so I may as well try to get in first and do it politely...
Within a few minutes, you've just started topics on the following subjects...
- Cannabis
- Pharmaceutical Antidepressants
- Pornography
Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
Craving: tanha
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... tanha.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Learning to release clinging involves seeing the danger and unsatisfactoriness in all formations. I would suggest that you follow this angle, rather than attempting to find loopholes to satisfy pre-existing cravings and defilements.SN 22.63 wrote:"Monk, if you cling to anything, you are in bondage to Mara. If you do not cling, you are free of the Evil One."
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
Re: Pornography
no...get off your high horse...i want answers NOT justificationsretrofuturist wrote: Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? )
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Re: Pornography
Greetings,
That's fine... just have a serious look at what prompted your reaction just then. Don't rely on me to tell you - look within.
Metta,
Retro.
That's fine... just have a serious look at what prompted your reaction just then. Don't rely on me to tell you - look within.
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
Re: Pornography
I know what tanha is. Not new to ANY of this. There is no necessary connection between craving and and cannabis or porn use. NEVER HEARD anyone talk about pharmaceutical antidepressants in terms of tanha, upadana, etc.... Maybe the craving to address here is your craving to avoid quality discussions about important topics.retrofuturist wrote:Greetings AnonOfIbid,
Someone is going to say it, so I may as well try to get in first and do it politely...
Within a few minutes, you've just started topics on the following subjects...
- Cannabis
- Pharmaceutical Antidepressants
- Pornography
Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
Re: Pornography
Wouldn't have posted without having done this already.retrofuturist wrote:... just have a serious look at what prompted your reaction just then. Don't rely on me to tell you - look within.
Re: Pornography
Why can't you just say "maybe," or does your clinging to views prevent that?retrofuturist wrote:Greetings AnonOfIbid,
Someone is going to say it, so I may as well try to get in first and do it politely...
Within a few minutes, you've just started topics on the following subjects...
- Cannabis
- Pharmaceutical Antidepressants
- Pornography
Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
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Re: Pornography
Greetings AnonOfIbid,
Extract from Iti 50
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... ml#iti-058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"There are these three cravings. Which three? Craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming. These are the three cravings."
Metta,
Retro.
Well, provide us with as example then... bearing in mind the following.AnonOfIbid wrote:There is no necessary connection between craving and and cannabis or porn use.
Extract from Iti 50
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... ml#iti-058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"There are these three cravings. Which three? Craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming. These are the three cravings."
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Re: Pornography
Greetings,
Metta,
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"Maybe" what, exactly? These were questions and possibilities raised, not certainties...AnonOfIbid wrote:Why can't you just say "maybe," or does your clinging to views prevent that?
retrofuturist wrote:Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
Re: Pornography
How does this not amount to an ad hominem attack? Isn't there a rule for such things? If not, there should be.
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings AnonOfIbid,
Someone is going to say it, so I may as well try to get in first and do it politely...
Within a few minutes, you've just started topics on the following subjects...
- Cannabis
- Pharmaceutical Antidepressants
- Pornography
Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read... )
Re: Pornography
Example: Q. Can one use porn non-harmfully? A. Maybe.
instead of the typical "well what do the texts say...?" i know what the canon and commentaries say...i want to know what THE LIVING Buddhas, dhamma & sangha have to say....the texts are only as good as their applicability and relevance to DAILY LIVING...
instead of the typical "well what do the texts say...?" i know what the canon and commentaries say...i want to know what THE LIVING Buddhas, dhamma & sangha have to say....the texts are only as good as their applicability and relevance to DAILY LIVING...
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
"Maybe" what, exactly? These were questions and possibilities raised, not certainties...AnonOfIbid wrote:Why can't you just say "maybe," or does your clinging to views prevent that?
retrofuturist wrote:Is it possible, that you are seeking justifications for your cravings? The following might be worth a read...
Metta,
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Greetings AnonOfIbid,
For all your defensiveness about it, I still stand by it being worthwhile advice, worth considering, even if it doesn't meet with your fancy.
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There is a rule, yes. Report the post if you like, and a moderator (not me) will independently have a look at it.AnonOfIbid wrote:How does this not amount to an ad hominem attack? Isn't there a rule for such things? If not, there should be.
For all your defensiveness about it, I still stand by it being worthwhile advice, worth considering, even if it doesn't meet with your fancy.
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"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Re: Pornography
Greetings AnonOfIbid,
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That's hardly an example though, is it? It's just saying maybe.AnonOfIbid wrote:Example: Q. Can one use porn non-harmfully? A. Maybe.
How can one "use porn" without engaging in craving?Iti 50 wrote:"There are these three cravings. Which three? Craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming. These are the three cravings."
Metta,
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"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."