Dhamma propagation - most effective form?

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Dhamma propagation - most effective form?

Postby rowyourboat » Sun May 08, 2011 2:17 am

What's the most effective form of dhamma propagation, in your opinion?

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby Ben » Sun May 08, 2011 2:23 am

Practice, Matheesha, Practice!
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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby plwk » Sun May 08, 2011 2:41 am

Location Matheesha Location :jumping:
(Where people are the most, that's where Dhamma should be made available, in my POV)

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby Reductor » Sun May 08, 2011 7:29 am

I am think both Ben and plwk are right. Practice energetically and put yourself out there to offer to others a buddhist answer/perspective on their questions. Whether or not they are receptive depends on many more conditions than just what you say.

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby LastLegend » Sun May 08, 2011 7:36 am

Represent Buddha's teachings by truly practicing the teachings to become a good role model. When people see that you are peaceful and vibrant, people will be curious about what you do. Then you can tell them that you practice Buddhism. :smile:

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby rowyourboat » Sun May 08, 2011 1:19 pm

Thanks Ben, I somehow knew you were going to say that :D. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that there is no substitute to personal experience and practice, in becoming a good teacher-interestingly I didn't consider that aspect of dhamma propagation. Hmm.. :thinking:

I agree with plwk about location. I see that I do reach more people at London Buddhist Vihar where the transport links are better and the temple is more established, with an active programme list.

I guess I am thinking on a broader scale than just one person doing classes. What about utilising the media, bibles in hotels, that type of thing as well..

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby bodom » Sun May 08, 2011 10:07 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


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well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby pilgrim » Mon May 09, 2011 3:41 am

For the average practising Buddhist who does not expect to be a teacher, I would say the most effective thing you can do to propagate the Dhamma is "Organisation". Get a number of people together, form common objectives like organising teachngs, retreats, etc.. implement..

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby alan » Mon May 09, 2011 4:08 am

How about taking full page adverts in all the major papers?
Or, we could put the Suttas in every hotel room.
Or, we could start a TV network. People could turn to channel 77 and hear the teachings!
That might work.

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby cooran » Mon May 09, 2011 4:15 am

But, most likely, it would turn as many people off buddhism as the Jehovah Witnesses do re christianity. Next someone will suggest door-knocking in pairs.
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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby alan » Mon May 09, 2011 4:23 am

My famous blend of sarcasm and literalism didn't seem to work here. So I'll have to use the technique of last resort--honesty.
Be like Ben and live it. Some will respond. Don't worry about the others.
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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby cooran » Mon May 09, 2011 4:31 am

:jumping:

So we agree! :smile:
---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby Reductor » Mon May 09, 2011 4:35 am

But JW attracts new members all the time. So it must work... Perhaps similar approaches, minus the obnoxious doctrine, would be successful. But god no door knocking!

There are community centers, pools, doctors offices with specific places to place pamphlets. Perhaps get something like "Just be good" and pull enough out of it to make a small and welcoming pamphlet.

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby rowyourboat » Mon May 09, 2011 5:53 am

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Re: Dhamma propagation

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby palchi » Mon May 09, 2011 6:52 am

One of the things that draw me into Buddhism (apart from the teachings hitting home of course) was the complete lack of missionary zeal. During my very first meditation course in a Tibetan temple the teacher even refused to answer questions on Buddhism during course time. His response was along the lines of: This is a beginners' meditation course, not a Buddhist course. If you have questions on Buddhism or the temple you are welcome to stay on afterwards and I will respond. Loved it.

That temple is offering teachings at different levels, many clearly Buddhist teachings, other targeted more at a general audience because they believe that meditation is helpful for anybody regardless of their religious affiliation. And of course many become interested in learning more...

In my view, living it, only sharing when asked, and leaving others the freedom to agree or disagree are still the best ways to share dharma.

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Re: Dhamma propagation

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Re: Dhamma propagation

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Re: Dhamma propagation

Postby rowyourboat » Tue May 10, 2011 11:15 pm

Spreading the dhamma is good practice!

AN 8.25 PTS: A iv 220
Mahanama Sutta: Being a Lay Buddhist
translated from the Pali by
Kumara Bhikkhu
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Once the Blessed One was dwelling among the Sakyas in Nigrodha Park at Kapilavatthu. There, Mahanama the Sakyan approached the Blessed One. Having approached and paid respect to the Blessed One, he sat aside. Then, seated aside, Mahanama the Sakyan said thus to the Blessed One:

"Venerable sir, in what way is one a lay follower?"[1]

"Mahanama, inasmuch as one has gone to the Buddha for refuge, has gone to the Dhamma for refuge, has gone to the Sangha for refuge; in that way, Mahanama, one is a lay follower."

"Then, venerable sir, in what way is a lay follower virtuous?"

"Mahanama, inasmuch as a lay follower abstains from destroying living beings; abstains from taking what is not given; abstains from sexual misconduct; abstains from lying; and abstains from wine, liquor and intoxicants that are causes for heedlessness; in that way, Mahanama, a lay follower is virtuous."

"Then, venerable sir, in what way is a lay follower engaged in his own welfare, but not in others' welfare?"

"Mahanama, inasmuch as a lay follower is possessed of faith himself, but rouses not others to possess faith; is possessed of virtue himself, but rouses not others to possess virtue; is possessed of liberality himself, but rouses not others to possess liberality; is himself desirous of meeting with monks, but rouses not others to meet with monks; is himself desirous of hearing the true Dhamma, but rouses not others to hear the true Dhamma; is himself habitually mindful of the Dhamma that is heard, but rouses not others to be mindful of the Dhamma; has himself ascertained the meaning/benefit of the Dhamma that is heard, but rouses not others to ascertain the meaning/benefit; having known the meaning/benefit, having known the Dhamma, is himself committed to the practice according to the Dhamma, but rouses not others to be committed to the practice according to the Dhamma; in that way, Mahanama, a lay follower is engaged in his own welfare, but not in others' welfare."

"Then, venerable sir, in what way is a lay follower engaged in his own welfare and in others' welfare?"

"Mahanama, inasmuch as a lay follower is possessed of faith himself, and rouses others to possess faith; is possessed of virtue himself, and rouses others to possess virtue; is possessed of liberality himself, and rouses others to possess liberality; is himself desirous of meeting with monks, and rouses others to meet with monks; is himself desirous of hearing the true Dhamma, and rouses others to hear the true Dhamma; is himself habitually mindful of the Dhamma that is heard, and rouses others to be mindful of the Dhamma; is himself ascertained of the meaning/benefit of the Dhamma that is heard, and rouses others to ascertain the meaning/benefit; having known the meaning/benefit, having known the Dhamma, is himself committed to the practice according to the Dhamma, and rouses others to be committed to the practice according to the Dhamma; in that way, Mahanama, a lay follower is engaged in his own welfare and in others' welfare."

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Pali: upasaka.
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