Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

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Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Stephen K » Sat May 21, 2011 6:35 pm

I want to be a monk one day, and since Ajahn Brahm is my favourite teacher, I wonder whether there is any possibility of me being his disciple.

Does anyone know whether he takes in disciples? I haven't contacted him yet, and on his website it says he doesn't use e-mail for contacts.

And btw, I'm not talking about the near future, but probably in about 3-4-5 years.

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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby David2 » Sat May 21, 2011 6:59 pm

I don't know. But if I were you and seriously interested, I would probably write him a letter. :)

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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Moggalana » Sat May 21, 2011 7:14 pm

Hello Stefan,

Seeking ordination at Bodhinyana Monastery
Men from outside of Australia are welcome to seek ordination at Bodhinyana Monastery to train under Ajahn Brahm, but we cannot guarantee that this will always be possible. According to Australian visa regulations Bodhinyana Monastery must give precedence to Australian candidates. Moreover, the visa regulations are themselves quite onerous, and it is impossible to know beforehand whether any particular application will be successful.

Any prospective candidate for ordination should first of all enter Australia on a Visitor Visa, preferably a 12-month visa. Such visas are available without sponsorship from Bodhinyana Monastery. If the candidate wishes to extend his stay beyond those 12 months, he should approach Ajahn Brahm and ask whether the Monastery is prepared to sponsor a temporary residence visa for him. If there is sufficient accommodation available, then the monastery may be willing to support a candidate,if the circumstances are right.

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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Jhana4 » Sat May 21, 2011 9:49 pm

Stefan;

I am curious. Ordination has much to offer. It also comes at a price. How do you feel about giving up lovers, girlfriends and wives? How do you feel about giving up the power to earn money, the power to pay your own bills and make many of your decisions?
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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Monkey Mind » Sun May 22, 2011 12:15 am

Steffan- I know of a few lay-community leaders who developed a student-teacher relationship with monastics. Perhaps that would be an alternative path for you?
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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby retrofuturist » Sun May 22, 2011 12:42 am

Greetings,

David2 wrote:I don't know. But if I were you and seriously interested, I would probably write him a letter. :)

That's a good idea... especially seeing as Stefan is looking 3-5 years into the future, yet... so the 'urgency' of e-mail communication is not required.

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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Stephen K » Sun May 22, 2011 9:52 am

Hi all,

@ David2: Thanks friend, that is what I am going to do.

@ Moggalana: Thanks mate, that was very useful.

@ Jhana4: As nice as some of these things are, they cannot be compared with the possibility of ending suffering and rebirth for good. :smile:

@ Monkey Mind: Thanks, I'll look into that possibility.

@ retro: Yep, that's right!


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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby shjohnk » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:26 am

Hi Stefan,

Another thing to consider is that some of AB's followers (Aussies: I don't mean Allan Border :tongue: )have become abbots of monasteries too, and they may accept disciples too (Eg: Ajahn Khemavaro in New South wales, Australia). The waiting list at these monasteries might not be so long, and you'd be benefitting from AB's teachings indirectly.

I admire your noble ambition, Stefan!

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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Ytrog » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:17 pm

As an alternative: have you looked at the forest monasteries in the UK?
I know that Cittaviveka doesn't really have a waiting list (and hopefully for me will never have ;))
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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby morning mist » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:07 am

Ajahn Brahm is fine, but steer clear of a certain disciples. Sujato goes on and on about democracy and yet he censored people and deleted their comments for no reason on his blog. A real hypocrite. He doesn't allow everyone to express themselves.
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Re: Becoming Ajahn Brahm's disciple

Postby Ben » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:01 am

Hi Stefan,
So you're thinking of coming to Australia? How cool!
You know, if you don't come and visit me down here in the island state, I will send my minions after you!
Seriously, I think your aspiration to study under the guidance of Ajahn Brahm is a good one and I encourage you to follow up on the suggestion to write him a letter.
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