Hey Alan, patience, close attention, and investigation are virtues of Theravadins. Don't jump to conclusion too quickly. Look at Chownah, at least he investigated and analyzed my statement. The reason I like Buddhism and the Theravada tradition because they're pragmatic. After all, if religions aren't there to help solving the troubles of our lives, what's the point of talking about them? Chownah pretty much got my idea. Guess I could clarify my approach by stating it in a more diplomatic or sensible way. All I was trying to say is to emphasize the concept of "transparency". Any kind of precept violation has zero transparency, including sexual misconduct obviously. Thus I stand by my previous statement because of this: if I was legally married to my wife, then suppose (Again, I have to emphasize the big word SUPPOSE this time), we're to get "busy" in broad day-light, in front of friends, relatives, loved ones, nobody, not my wife, not my friends, not my relatives, NOBODY will object to what we're doing. Embarassment? Of course yes, but objection? resentment? suffering? NO! Now that's "transparency". Beside, it's all common sense, hey, if you don't do anything wrong, then what is there to hide?