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Vinaya Anthology

Postby bodom » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:39 pm

Im looking for an Vinaya anthology that contains the suttas that were spoken by the Buddha on the occasion of the rules being laid down. Any recommendations?

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby daverupa » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:44 pm

Have you looked at the PTS English editions of the Khandhaka and the SuttaVibhanga?
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby bodom » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:51 pm

daverupa wrote:Have you looked at the PTS English editions of the Khandhaka and the SuttaVibhanga?


Hi daverupa

I have. The PTS edition of the SuttaVibhanga is contained in 3 volumes at almost $70 a book. Don't really have the money at this time and was hoping to find a cheaper alternative. I haven't looked into the Khandhaka yet. I will have a look thank you.

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby daverupa » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:18 pm

I recommend the Khandhaka from the PTS (published as the Mahavagga and Culavagga, vols. 4 & 5, of The Book of Discipline) as it is the earliest Vinaya text (the Patimokkha is earlier, but the SuttaVibhanga containing it is later). Still fairly pricey.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby bodom » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:27 pm

daverupa wrote:I recommend the Khandhaka from the PTS (published as the Mahavagga and Culavagga, vols. 4 & 5, of The Book of Discipline) as it is the earliest Vinaya text (the Patimokkha is earlier, but the SuttaVibhanga containing it is later). Still fairly pricey.


Thanks so much!

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:41 pm

bodom wrote:Im looking for an Vinaya anthology that contains the suttas that were spoken by the Buddha on the occasion of the rules being laid down. Any recommendations?

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Ven Nanamoli's LIFE OF THE BUDDHA has a fair amount of Vinaya texts.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby bodom » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:05 am

tiltbillings wrote:
bodom wrote:Im looking for an Vinaya anthology that contains the suttas that were spoken by the Buddha on the occasion of the rules being laid down. Any recommendations?

:anjali:

Ven Nanamoli's LIFE OF THE BUDDHA has a fair amount of Vinaya texts.


Thanks tilt, great book, I own it. Im looking for something a bit more comprehensive though.

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby Khemadhammo Bhikkhu » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:50 pm

On http://www.archive.org and http://www.scribd.com you can find Horner's and Rhys Davids' translations of the Vinaya texts. I think there all on there.

Metta,

Khemadhammo (Phra Sander).
He stopped and called out to the Blessed One: "Stop, recluse! Stop, recluse!"
"I have stopped, Angulimāla, you stop too."
(M ii.100)
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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby bodom » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:56 pm

Khemadhammo Bhikkhu wrote:On http://www.archive.org and http://www.scribd.com you can find Horner's and Rhys Davids' translations of the Vinaya texts. I think there all on there.

Metta,

Khemadhammo (Phra Sander).


Thank you Bhante!

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby daverupa » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:13 pm

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    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Vinaya Anthology

Postby BKh » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:50 pm

As a point of clarification, the books titled "Vinaya Texts" vols 1-3 was translated by T.W. Rhys Davids and Herman Oldenberg. [1881-5] and seems to contain the patimokkha(rules only no stories) and the Khandakas. The Khandakas do contain background stories, but not to the patimokkha rules. If you scroll down on this page you can find them
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/index.htm

I believe a print on demand company called Forgotten Books will sell you a hard copy.

I. B. Horner translated both the Suttavibhangha and the Khandakas(Under the title Book of Discipline) , but I don't think they are in the public domain yet. My recollection is that there are several PTS scanned books on archive.org claiming to be the Book of Discipline but when you download them they are something else.

Ajahn Thanissaro's Buddhist Monastic Code will often have a summary of the origin stories, although not for every rule. Certainly enough to give you an idea.

Hope that is helpful(and correct :-))
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